The discussion revolves around the intersection of quantum physics and spirituality, exploring claims made by spiritual leaders in relation to modern scientific findings. Participants examine the implications of these connections and the public's perception of quantum mechanics, as well as the influence of media representations on understanding these concepts.
Participants express a range of views, with no consensus on the relationship between quantum physics and spirituality. Some find value in the spiritual perspectives, while others challenge their relevance and validity in the context of scientific inquiry.
Participants highlight the limitations of public understanding of quantum mechanics and the potential for misinterpretation of scientific concepts through popular media. There is an ongoing tension between subjective interpretations of spirituality and the objective nature of scientific inquiry.
drdolittle said:people are talking about Quantum physics and many such things.But what thay are proving now is what is already told by spiritual leaders of Hinduism,taoism long time back...where is this leading to?
ZapperZ said:Unfortunately, we can expect many more such attitudes towards QM in the near future, especially by those who have seen the awful movie/documentary "What the #$*! Do We Know". Other than the fact that the movie completely bastardized physics (and only those who have actually studied any physics would realize this), comments such as this reemphasize the conclusions of many surveys of scientfic literacy among the general public - that most people are not able to tell the difference between scientific evidence and anecdotal/inconclusive/faulty/bogus evidence.
This movie, btw, prides itself in exploring the metaphysical aspects of modern physics. And people wonder why physicists groan whenever we hear something like that...
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DrChinese said:I saw the movie. The premise started out well enough, but it was strictly pick-and-choose in what it covered. I.e. trying to shock the viewer with tidbits. The people (presented as "scientific experts") interviewed were fairly weak.
What bothered me a lot was they presented as "fact" an experiment which purported to show that water could be controlled by the human mind.
As to DrDolittle's comments: I would be hard pressed to latch onto anything in the I Ching (or similar works) or in Hindu texts which has much to do with the formalism of Quantum Mechanics. The parallels are all in the mind, and there are plenty of counter examples as well. Ditto with Relativity.
drdolittle said:Iam deeply perplexed by those who foresaw the future by their ultimate intuition.I give credence to those spiritual leaders and physicists nowadays are proving nothing but what they foretold.Their philosophy was meant to be obscured due to the problem they faced with communicating in words what they bore in there mind.
drdolittle said:I can tell vehemently that none of the spiritual leaders has told about the end of world.Such hoaxes were told only by few American philosophers with no grounds.Spiritual leaders from India,China,Japan through there doctrines have attained awakening and have explained them with cogent reasoning.I wonder that this has inspired even some greatest minds of the world but not you.Atleast now start thinking and heed to there philosophies.
Okay, I'll bite.drdolittle said:If you are incapable of understanding the reality and the gravity of my talk,dont call yourself to be well-read in physics as you don't possesses a basic knowledge of dissecting the facts.