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DrKareem
Nov21-04, 12:20 PM
haven't found a way of doing it so far. I have a feeling that it's extremely easy, and i'm missing how to do it somehow :/

marlon
Nov21-04, 12:21 PM
do you mean cosec(x), the cosecans ??? If so, just use the t=tan(x/2) formula's...

marlon

DrKareem
Nov21-04, 01:24 PM
I'm not sure what formula you're talking about.

\int \csc(x) dx

If you take t=tan(\frac{x}{2}),

you'd get:

\frac {d}{dx} \tan(x)= \frac{1}{2}.sec^2(x)

Not sure how to go from there...

arildno
Nov21-04, 01:35 PM
What marlon meant, is the following:
csc(x)=\frac{1}{\sin(x)}=\frac{\cos^{2}(\frac{x}{2 })+\sin^{2}(\frac{x}{2})}{2\sin(\frac{x}{2})\cos(\ frac{x}{2})}=\frac{1+tan^{2}(\frac{x}{2})}{2tan(\f rac{x}{2})}

Substitute u=tan(\frac{x}{2})
This implies:
\frac{du}{dx}=\frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{\cos^{2}(\frac{x }{2})}=\frac{1}{2}(u^{2}+1)
Or:
dx=\frac{2du}{u^{2}+1}
Hence, we have:
\int{csc(x)}dx=\int\frac{du}{u}=ln|u|+C=ln|tan(\fr ac{x}{2})|+C

DrKareem
Nov22-04, 02:58 AM
I'm not sure how you did this equality:


\frac{\cos^{2}(\frac{x}{2 })+\sin^{2}(\frac{x}{2})}{2\sin(\frac{x}{2})\cos(\ frac{x}{2})}=\frac{1+tan^{2}(\frac{x}{2})}{2tan(\f rac{x}{2})}


Can you please clarify?

Other than that, it's all clear, thank you very much.

happenstantially
Nov22-04, 04:47 AM
\int \csc x = \int \csc x \left(\frac{\csc x - \cot x}{\csc x - \cot x}\right) = \int \frac{du}{u} = \ln |csc x - cot x|
(is that what we're talking about?)

DrKareem
Nov22-04, 05:07 AM
yes, nice method :)

Still i would like someone to explain the question of my last post.
Thank you :)

happenstantially
Nov22-04, 05:14 AM
separate the fractions and simplify
\frac{\cos u}{2\sin u}+ \frac{\sin u}{2\cos u} =
\frac{1}{2\tan u} + \frac{tan u}{2}
get a common denominator and you're done.

uart
Nov22-04, 07:35 AM
Still i would like someone to explain the question of my last post.

Just divide by cos^2(x/2) in both the numerator and the denominator of the LHS of the expression in question and it will drop straight out.

DrKareem
Nov22-04, 08:17 AM
Yes, excellent, so know i know i am stupid hehe :)

Thanks alot for your help guys :)