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PhysForumID
Oct15-11, 10:14 PM
What would sin^0 (x) mean? sin^n (x) means using the sine function 'n' times on x, so what does it mean to use it zero times? does sin^0 (x) then equal 'x' or '0' or... ?
The context of this question is that I have to prove that:
I_n = integral from zero to pi/2 of sin^n (x) with respect to 'x'
I am proving this by induction starting with n=0, assuming true for n=n and showing it is true for n=n+1
Number Nine
Oct15-11, 10:46 PM
sin^{0}(x) = (sin0)^{0} = 1
Is n a natural number? Then start with n = 1.
PhysForumID
Oct15-11, 10:53 PM
sorry maybe I've got more than that confused in my head... I always understand sinn (x) to mean you use the function 'sine' 'n' times on x, rather than take sin(x) and multiply it by 'n'... am I wrong there? Surely not because sin(sin(pi/2)) >< {sin(pi/2)}^2
and yes n is a natural number but starting from 0
Number Nine
Oct15-11, 10:58 PM
sorry maybe I've got more than that confused in my head... I always understand sinn (x) to mean you use the function 'sine' 'n' times on x, rather than take sin(x) and multiply it by 'n'... am I wrong there? Surely not because sin(sin(pi/2)) >< {sin(pi/2)}^2
sin^{2}(x) is shorthand for sin(x)sin(x), and so on for arbitrary n. A value raised to the power of 0 equals 1 due to the fact that x^{n} = x*x^{n-1}, so...
x^{0} = x*x^{-1} = x*\frac{1}{x} = 1
and yes n is a natural number but starting from 0
Zero isn't a natural number. This is me being pedantic, of course, and you can still begin with n=0 if you like. Can you elaborate on what you're trying to prove? What in the integral supposed to equal?
PhysForumID
Oct16-11, 12:10 AM
wow I have no idea how I got this far in uni making that mistake about what sin^2(x) was... thanks number nine :)
and sorry, that was my mistake for saying it was a natural number. n = {0,1,2...}
the integral is given and we have to show that I_0 > I_1 > I_2 > .... etc
spamiam
Oct16-11, 01:31 PM
Can you show that \sin^{n}(x) > \sin^{n+1}(x) for all n? Once you do, can you see how to use this to solve the problem?
Also, I'd like to say that I think the notation \sin^2(x) to mean (\sin(x))^2 is very unfortunate. It is often the case that f^2(x) is taken to mean f(f(x)) as you had thought, PhysForumID. This is almost always the case with the exponent -1, since f^{-1} usually denotes the inverse of f with respect to functional composition, not multiplication. One great confusion people often have while learning trigonometry is that \sin^2(x) = (\sin(x))^2, but \sin^{-1}(x) \neq (\sin(x))^{-1}. Rather \sin(\sin^{-1}(x))=x, since here the exponent refers to functional composition and not multiplication.
Zero isn't a natural number. This is me being pedantic, of course, and you can still begin with n=0 if you like.
There is no consensus on whether or not 0 is a natural number. From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_number):
Including 0 is now the common convention among set theorists, logicians, and computer scientists. Many other mathematicians also include 0, although some have kept the older tradition and take 1 to be the first natural number.
You can use either convention as long as you're consistent. If you really want to be unambiguous, you can say "non-negative integers" and "positive integers."
Redbelly98
Oct17-11, 07:22 PM
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