Getting Physics Help: Home Run Edition

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving projectile motion, specifically analyzing the trajectory of a baseball hit for a home run. The problem provides specific parameters, including the height of a wall and the distance from home plate, while requiring calculations related to the ball's initial speed and time of flight.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between vertical and horizontal motion, questioning the assumption that the wall height represents the apex of the ball's trajectory. They discuss the use of kinematic equations to relate time, distance, and velocity components.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing different approaches and calculations. Some have offered reasoning and attempted to derive expressions for velocity components, while others express uncertainty about the correctness of their methods. No consensus has been reached on the correct solution yet.

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Participants note that the problem involves assumptions about the projectile's motion, including neglecting air resistance and the initial height from which the ball is hit. There is also mention of feedback from an online homework system indicating incorrect answers, prompting further discussion and attempts to clarify reasoning.

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More physics... Help Please!

A ball player hits a home run, and the baseball just clears a wall 18.5 m high located 140.0 m from home plate. The ball is hit at an angle of 32° to the horizontal, and air resistance is negligible. Assume the ball is hit at a height of 1.0 m above the ground.

a. What is the initial speed of the ball? Solve for time in the x-direction and substitute it in the formula for the vertical position.
Incorrect. Tries 1/15

b. How much time does it take for the ball to reach the wall? Tries 0/15

c. Find the velocity components and the speed of the ball when it reaches the wall.
Vy,f
Vx,f
Vf

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I have no idea how to start
 
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Well let's start with what we know --

We seem to be told to assume that the 18.5 m wall is the apex of the ball's height and the ball started at 1 m so it traveled 17.5 m up before its vertical vel went to zero (vertical velocity is zero when the ball stops rising and starts falling). Velocity after time t is initial vertical velocity (Vy here I think) - gt -- that is:

V(17.5 m) = Vy - gt = Vy - 9.8t

If we set that to 0 we get that

Vy = 9.8t -------- first step

We also know that the distance up (17.5 m) is as follows

17.5 = Vyt - gt^2/2 --- But note that we have an expression for Vy just above so

17.5 = 9.8t^2 - 9.8t^2/2 = 4.9t^2

t = SQRT(17.5/4.9) = 1.89 sec

So Vy when the ball left the bat was:

9.8 * 1.89 = 18.522 m/sec

I did this straight on the computer and I have not checked whether I made any errors -- so check it -- the logic should be right.

Why don't I let you work the rest.
 
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Thank you for your help, but my online homework says that is the wrong answer. So if someone could still help me, I'd appreciate it.
 
OK - one more try; I appear to have been wrong in assuming that 18.5 m was the apex of the ball's flight. Using the hint from part a.,
where t is the time at which the ball reached the fence
travel in x direction:

140 m = Vx*t so
t=140/Vx

travel in y direction:
17.5 = Vy*t - 9.8*t^2/2

17.5 = (Vy/Vx)*140 - 0.5*9.8*19600/Vx^2 (equation 1)

I think we assume tan(32)= Vy/Vx

i.e., 0.6249 = Vy/Vx or Vy = 0.62489*Vx

Using this to solve equation 1 above yields Vx= 37.045 m/sec so
Vy = .6249*37.045 = 23.14 m/sec.
For "initial speed" they probably want the velocity at 32 deg from the horiz so that would be Vy/cos(32) or Vx/sin(32)
Well, hope this one was right
I'll leave b) for you
 
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