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nautica
Nov30-04, 11:56 AM
Membrane proteins are integrated into the ER membrane by means of protein translocators, which are themselves membrane proteins.

So how would the first protein translocators become incorporated into the ER membrane???

Nautica

Moonbear
Nov30-04, 06:26 PM
Aww, c'mon, why don't you ask a hard question for a change? :rofl:

I truly have no idea, but could venture a wild guess that perhaps some don't require translocators due to their size or structure, but it is only a wild guess.

Monique
Dec1-04, 07:58 AM
It could just be that they very much LIKE to be in the membrane, so as moonbear said they just don't need translocators. Proteins that WOULD need translocators are those that have very hydrophilic chains that thus normally would never cross the membrane by themselves.

None
Dec1-04, 10:33 AM
I do know that some secreted proteins in bacteria have their own translocation domains, ie. type V secretion systems. Wouldn't be too far fetched to say that some eukaryotic ER components could encode self translocators specific for ER membranes, though I don't know of any specific examples.

iansmith
Dec2-04, 12:37 AM
I would have to agree with none there must be a type v -like mechanism for protein transltor. I will do more research.

nautica
Dec2-04, 05:11 AM
Yes, that is a thought. I'll check on that also.

Thanks
nautica

nautica
Dec2-04, 05:13 AM
btw
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nautica

Moonbear
Dec2-04, 08:39 AM
btw
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nautica

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Monique
Dec2-04, 11:00 AM
there must be a type v -like mechanism
What mechanism would that be?

nautica
Dec11-04, 01:02 PM
What mechanism would that be?

good question

iansmith
Dec11-04, 03:06 PM
Type V secretion pathway are also known as Autotransporter protein secretion system.

http://www.horizonpress.com/cimb/abstracts/v6/09.html
http://pasteur.fontismedia.com/infiles/out/res031162.pdf

nautica
Dec11-04, 03:39 PM
sweet, good info.

Thanks
Nautica