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srfriggen
Nov11-11, 09:49 AM
While learning about limit points the use of an open ball has been of high discussion. Why can you not use a closed ball to define a limit point?

If someone could give me some intuition as to why I think I may get it.

Thanks.

micromass
Nov11-11, 10:18 AM
Are you working in metric space?? In that case, you can define limit points using open balls.

Just define x to be a limit point of A if every ball around x intersects A\{x}.

srfriggen
Nov11-11, 10:23 AM
yes, I am working in a metric space.

So can you use your definition for open and closed balls?

micromass
Nov11-11, 11:18 AM
yes, I am working in a metric space.

So can you use your definition for open and closed balls?

No, only for open balls. Think about what could go wrong for closed balls.

srfriggen
Nov11-11, 12:26 PM
I've been trying to but I can't think of an example where having boundaries on the ball would cause a problem. That's really why I asked the original question.

Can you give me one?

micromass
Nov11-11, 12:39 PM
What if the ball has radius 0?

srfriggen
Nov11-11, 12:57 PM
got it, thanks!