How to Create Tetramers or Hexamers from a 96-Base Long DNA Sequence?

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The discussion revolves around methods for creating tetramers or hexamers from a 96-base long DNA sequence. Participants explore various protocols, techniques, and challenges associated with DNA ligation and cloning processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about standard protocols for creating tetramers or hexamers from a 96-base DNA sequence.
  • Another participant shares a link to a scientific article that may contain relevant information but notes that access may be restricted.
  • A participant describes their experience with cloning the sequence into a vector, transforming bacteria, and using ligation, while cautioning about the potential formation of circular plasmids during the process.
  • Concerns are raised about avoiding circularization during ligation, with one participant seeking advice on how to prevent it.
  • Another participant mentions having a complementary sequence with additional bases and questions the feasibility of creating a tetramer through ligation.
  • One participant suggests that ligation should be performed at high concentrations of short DNA pieces to increase the likelihood of proper attachment rather than circularization.
  • Another participant shares their challenges with obtaining concatamers and suggests using calf intestine alkaline phosphatase (CIP) to prevent circularization.
  • Partial digestions of circularized concatamers are proposed as a potential method to achieve better results.

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Participants express various methods and concerns regarding the creation of tetramers and hexamers, but no consensus is reached on a single effective protocol. Multiple competing views and techniques are presented, indicating ongoing uncertainty and exploration in the discussion.

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Participants mention limitations such as access to scientific articles and the complexity of the ligation process, including the risk of circularization and the need for specific conditions during the procedure.

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I have a DNA sequence of 96 bases long.
I want to make a tetramer/hexamer of this sequence.
Is there any standard protocol available for this?
 
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It is the best thing I could found

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WBK-45PMJV4-2H&_coverDate=11%2F30%2F1994&_alid=226736773&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_qd=1&_cdi=6713&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=782f92ac3f85811a2a132b8525f70882
 
I once did it by cloning the sequence in a vector, make lots of it by transforming some bacteria, cut it out with sticky ends, ligate, run on gel and cut out the correct size (you'll see a ladder), put back into a vector, put into bacteria and then you can do a pcr if you wish. It's a LOT of work and you need to watch out that you don't form circular plasmids during the ligation step.

You could look up some LONG SAGE protocols, they have a step where they form concatamers.
 
circular? yeah... that's wat i was worried about...

How can i avoid it?

N i couldn't have the paper specified above :( ( No subscription...!)
 
actually i have got a sequence and its complementary sequence with extra 4 bases on both the sides(5' n 3'). n i want 2 create tetramer of this sequence thru ligation.

Is it possible ?

The orginal sequence is of less than 80 bases.

Any ideas ?

thanks in advance! :)
 
I can not get to the article myself.. you could try your university library and see if they can get it for you.

I found it all to be very tricky, but you must try to do the ligation at a very high concentration of the short pieces of DNA: it will be more likely that a short piece of DNA will attach itself, than it would be for the concatamer to close itself.

Try looking up articles on long sage and see how they do this step.

I tried hard to get a concatamer of 100 and 200 bp building blocks.. I did get the ladder, but was unable to clone it: because the concats were circularized.

Another option might be to use CIP (calf intestine alkaline phosphatase) on the DNA, it will dephosphorylate the one end of DNA so that it can't circularize.. good luck ;)
 
ps, try partial digestions of the circularized concats (if you've got enough).. that might give good results too.
 
Monique said:
I can not get to the article myself.. you could try your university library and see if they can get it for you.

I have send the article couple days ago
 

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