Distance the lower pulley moves all 3 ropes

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The discussion centers on the mechanical advantage provided by a specific pulley system, as illustrated in the referenced image. Participants agree that the lower pulley reduces the necessary force to one-third of what would be required without the pulley, confirming that the mechanical advantage (M.A) is 3. This conclusion is supported by analyzing the tension vectors in the system, where three upward forces equal the weight, leading to the equation 3T = W, thus establishing T = W/3. The consensus emphasizes the importance of understanding how pulleys can provide mechanical advantage rather than merely redirecting force.

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Consider this pulley:
http://67.18.37.18/1014/142/upload/p1957458.png

There has been some discussion at a forum whether this pulley reduces the necessary force to 1/2 or to 1/3 of a "non-pullied" rope. I'm strongly for 1/3 basically since for each distance the lower pulley moves all 3 ropes are moved = 3 times the distance = 3 times less force. I'm just posting this here to get a more accurate answer since, well, it's a physics forum :).
 
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You are correct. Sometimes there is confusion about whether a pulley actuall provides a mechanical advantage or is just re-directing the force. Since line from the lower pulley is straight up, that pulley does give a mechanical advantage.
 
I'll second russ' opinion on that and yours on the M.A = 3 statement.

The easiest way to show this is by drawing and labeling all the tension vectors in the different sections of string. On the lower pulley, there are three upward forces, all equal in magnitude to T, the tension. So, in equilibrium, you have 3T = W or T = W/3. But clearly F = T, at the end of the rope. So, W/F = M.A = 3
 

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