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Stalker_VT
Jan10-12, 11:21 PM
how do you use the change of variable:
\xi = x - ct
on the PDE
ut + c ux = 0
where u(t,x) = v(t,x-ct) = v(t,\xi)
to get
vt = 0
I am trying to follow the steps of Peter J. Olver in this document http://www.math.umn.edu/~olver/pd_/lnw.pdf starting on pg 4 but get stuck here...i think i am missing an important calculus concept but cannot figure out what. He says to use the chain rule but i cannot figure out how that helps.
Any help GREATLY appreciated
bigfooted
Jan12-12, 02:15 AM
first use \xi=x-ct to eliminate x:
u(t,x)=v(t,\xi(t))
Olver mentions the multivariate calculus rule, meaning you should apply the following:
\frac{\partial u(a(t),b(t))}{\partial t}=\frac{\partial u}{\partial a}\frac{\partial a(t)}{\partial t} + \frac{\partial u}{\partial b}\frac{\partial b(t)}{\partial t}
In this case
a(t)=t
and
b(t)=\xi(t)
\frac{\partial u(t,\xi(t))}{\partial t}=\frac{\partial u}{\partial t}1 + \frac{\partial u}{\partial \xi}\frac{\partial \xi}{\partial t}
and note that
\frac{\partial \xi}{\partial t}=-c
do something similar for u_x and substitute.
LCKurtz
Jan12-12, 09:57 PM
It is frowned upon in these forums to multi-post your questions. This thread is apparently a continuation of:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=566713
Stalker_VT
Jan13-12, 03:27 PM
O I am sorry, I am new to these forums and was not sure which section to post in because it was "like" a homework question, but I really was just looking for the concept behind that one step.
Sorry again...Didn't mean to waste your time reading two posts.
Stalker_VT
Jan13-12, 03:47 PM
first use \xi=x-ct to eliminate x:
u(t,x)=v(t,\xi(t))
Olver mentions the multivariate calculus rule, meaning you should apply the following:
\frac{\partial u(a(t),b(t))}{\partial t}=\frac{\partial u}{\partial a}\frac{\partial a(t)}{\partial t} + \frac{\partial u}{\partial b}\frac{\partial b(t)}{\partial t}
In this case
a(t)=t
and
b(t)=\xi(t)
\frac{\partial u(t,\xi(t))}{\partial t}=\frac{\partial u}{\partial t}1 + \frac{\partial u}{\partial \xi}\frac{\partial \xi}{\partial t}
and note that
\frac{\partial \xi}{\partial t}=-c
do something similar for u_x and substitute.
Thanks for the reply, I got the first step of what you did, and got the equation
\frac{\partial u}{\partial t} = \frac{\partial v}{\partial t} - c \frac{\partial v}{\partial \xi}
And I realized (by trying do to do it) that when you do a similar thing for ux you get an equation very similar to the first. It does not seem to give you the relation
\frac{\partial u}{\partial x} = \frac{ \partial v}{\partial\xi}
which is the step i cannot figure out
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