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SomeRandomGuy
Dec16-04, 09:17 PM
lim as x approaches 0 from the right of x^(tan(x))

I took the ln and got tan(x)ln(x), then made it ln(x)/(1/tan(x)) which = ln(x)/(cot(x)) and I could use L' Hospital's rule. I got (1/x)/(csc^2(x)) and made that (1/x)/(1/sin^2(x)). I then made that sin^2(x)/x and used L' Hospital's rule again to get the lim as x approaches 0 from the right of 2cos(x) which = 2. Am I right or wrong? :/

Hurkyl
Dec16-04, 09:49 PM
You've made at least one mistake.

Hurkyl
Dec16-04, 09:50 PM
0^0 is not 1. :tongue2: It's an indeterminate form.

Euclid
Dec16-04, 10:00 PM
Write L=\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} x^{\tan x}.
Then \log L =\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \tan x\log x = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{\tan x}{\log x}= 0

So L = e^0 = 1. There is no use for L'Hopitals rule here.

Cantari
Dec16-04, 10:06 PM
0/0 is another indeterminate form. When you took the derivative of sin^2 x, you messed up (as well as forgot a negative sign which doesnt effect it). So instead of your top going to 2 it should go to 0.

dextercioby
Dec16-04, 10:09 PM
Write L=\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} x^{\tan x}.
Then \log L =\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \tan x\log x = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \frac{\tan x}{\log x}= 0

So L = e^0 = 1. There is no use for L'Hopitals rule here.

U've written something wrong.
Limit and logaritm commute.Use this property to show that:
\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} \ln(x^{\tan x}) = \lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\tan x\ln x

I hope u can show that the logaritm of the limit is zero,and hence the initial limit is 1.

Daniel.

dextercioby
Dec16-04, 10:11 PM
0/0 is another indeterminate form. When you took the derivative of sin^2 x, I think you messed up (as well as forgot a negative sign which doesnt effect it). So instead of your top going to 2 it should go to 0.

Not to perform any differentiations on the sine squared use this trick
\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} =1 .

Daniel.

Cantari
Dec16-04, 10:17 PM
Also I am not sure that you know that when you take the ln of this, you need to take the ln of the other side of the equals sign. So just assume that it equals y, then the answer is ln y = 0, which would be 1.

dextercioby
Dec16-04, 10:23 PM
Also I am not sure that you know that when you take the ln of this, you need to take the ln of the other side of the equals sign. So just assume that it equals y, then the answer is ln y = 0, which would be 1.

Which other side??Of course u apply logarithm on the both sides of the equation:
\lim_{x\rightarrow 0} x^{\tan x} = L
,where L is the limit and is the unknown.When u take logarithm,u should be stating:
\ln L=...=0
,from where u get your result...


Daniel.

Cantari
Dec16-04, 10:26 PM
... my comment was directed to the original poster as he said he got an answer of 2 and assumed that was the final answer. Which would not be the case even if 2 was what the right side came out to be due to the fact he took the log of the problem in the first step.