What math is needed for a basic understanding of quantum mechanics?

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The discussion centers on the mathematical prerequisites necessary for a basic understanding of quantum mechanics (QM). Participants explore various mathematical topics and their relevance to different levels of QM education, including undergraduate and advanced courses.

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  • One participant suggests that multivariable calculus, linear algebra, and ordinary differential equations are essential for basic QM, while noting that partial differential equations (PDEs) and group theory are not strictly necessary at this level.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the required mathematics can depend on the course material and the instructor's approach, mentioning the need for basic concepts in finite dimensional vector spaces, topology, and PDEs, as well as special functions.
  • A third participant references a resource that outlines mathematical areas needed for different levels of physics education, indicating that the relevance to QM may vary.
  • One participant reiterates the importance of PDEs and linear algebra for introductory QM, suggesting that further mathematical needs will become apparent as one progresses in the subject.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of certain mathematical topics, such as PDEs and group theory, indicating that there is no consensus on a definitive list of required mathematics for understanding QM.

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Participants mention various mathematical concepts and their applications, but there are limitations in terms of assumptions about the course structure and the instructor's knowledge. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the mathematical foundation needed for QM.

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i seem to make these math threads a lot ^.^. anyways, what math would you need to know to clearly understand basic QM? thanks.
 
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You will need to know multivariable calculus, linear algebra, and ordinary differential equations.

That's for "basic" QM (which is what you asked for), so I am leaving out partial differential equations and group theory.

Why not PDEs? Well, while the Schrödinger equation is a PDE, you will be separating it into 4 ODEs (3 space+1 time), and all your ODE methods can be brought to bear.

Why not group theory? The only algebra you'll need for a first course in QM is on matrix manipulations, vector spaces, and linear transformations. You certainly will not have to know about SU(N), generators of groups, etc. The only thing from group theory that will come up is the idea of a nonabelian group, but this will all be self-contained in commutation relations.

For an advanced undergraduate course, you will need to supplement your mathematics with both PDEs and groups.
 
Still depends on the course material and how much math the teacher knows and is willing to include in the course.For example,my course assumed basic notions of finite dimensional vector spaces (linear algebra),the elementary notions of topology (set,open set,closed set),partial differential equations (for the exercise part),a bit about the functional "delta-Dirac".And that's just about it,because my teacher knew all the math (functional analysis) the understanding of the principles required and,moreover,was willing to teach us.

Daniel.

PS.Integration of functions with maximum 3 variables and special functions (orthogonal polynomials,Bessel functions).
 
The Superstring Theory website has a three-tiered list of mathematical areas one would need to know for: (1) undergraduate physics; (2) graduate students in theoretical physics; and (3) "hot topics" in string theory.

http://superstringtheory.com/math/index.html

As a non-physicist myself, I'm unable to say how well the same courses would map onto what is needed for quantum mechanics. However, the section on mathematical background for graduate study in theoretical physics seems like it could be relevant.
 
PDE and Linear Algebra for the introductory stuff. Then when you get into it you'll know what math you'll need for other problems.
 

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