Is it possible for the median to equal the stddev?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of having a set of numbers where the median equals the standard deviation. Participants explore the definitions and relationships between these statistical measures.

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  • The original poster questions whether a set can exist where the average and standard deviation relate to the median in a specific way. Some participants attempt to provide examples and engage in algebraic manipulation to explore the relationships between the values.

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Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing examples and others expressing uncertainty about their algebraic manipulations. There is a hint of guidance offered through examples, but no consensus has been reached on the main question.

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Some participants mention constraints on the values they are using, such as specific ranges for the numbers in their sets. There is also a side discussion about the relationship between the mean, standard deviation, and median.

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Is it possible to have a set where the average is some number and the standard deviation from the average is equal to the median value of that same set? If so, could you show me such a set?
 
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ktpr2 said:
Is it possible to have a set where the average is some number and the standard deviation from the average is equal to the median value of that same set?

Yes.

If so, could you show me such a set?

I'll show you a trivial example and then give you a hint. But you have to try it for yourself.

The trivial example is the set {0}. Both the standard deviation and the median are zero.

Now if you want a more substantial example, just use the definitions of standard deviation and median:

σ2=Σ(xi-μ)/N
m=middle value (if N is odd) or average of 2 middle values (if N is even)

Let N be odd for simplicity. In fact, let N=3. That means that the median is x2. So all you have to do is set σ equal to x2 and choose some values for x1 and x2. Then use your equation to solve for x3.
 
well I'm not sure where the squared part of the summation bit went when you removed the sqaure root by squaring both sides, but...

with {64, 127, x3}, we have

127^2 = ( (64-μ)+(127-μ)+(x3-μ) ) / 3

μ = (64+127+x3)/3

Now as soon as I pick a number for μ I've inadvertedly picked my stddev. I can solve for μ but I have a feeling you didn't intend for me to do all that algebraic manipulation.

And of course if i pick whatever value I want for μ the std. dev and median do not equal another. So what am I doing wrong?

EDIT - as an aside, is it possible for the mean+stddev to equal the median?
 
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okay

For [tex]\mu+\sigma = median[/tex]

Well I did some algebraic exploration of my own and I found sets like [tex]\{x, x+1,x+1\}[/tex] to work "good enough." I failed to mention that my values for x are [tex]0\geq x \geq255[/tex] and [tex]x \in N[/tex] so I just round any reals i get in calculating
 

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