How Do I Solve Trigonometric Equations Using a Graphic Calculator?

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The discussion revolves around solving trigonometric equations, specifically using a graphic calculator. Participants explore the methods for solving equations like sin(x) = sin(30 degrees) and sin(4x) = sin(6x), including the implications of periodicity and symmetry in trigonometric functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the algorithm for solving sin(x) = sin(30 degrees) and expresses a desire for further explanation or resources.
  • Another participant explains that sin(x) = sin(30 degrees) has multiple solutions based on the unit circle, noting that x = 30 degrees and x = 150 degrees are solutions, along with the periodic nature of sine.
  • A later reply indicates that the initial participant found the explanation satisfactory but still has some confusion.
  • One participant presents a method for solving sin(4x) = sin(6x) and derives two sets of solutions, questioning their correctness.
  • Another participant suggests verifying the solutions by plotting the graph of sin(4x) - sin(6x) to check for roots.
  • A final reply expresses a desire to use a graphic calculator to assist in solving the equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solving the equations, and some confusion remains regarding the methods discussed. There are multiple viewpoints on how to interpret and solve the trigonometric equations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the use of degrees versus radians, and there is a lack of clarity on the specific algorithms or methods for finding sine values.

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Hi! I know, sort of, the algorithm of solving ei. sin x = sin 30 degrees. But I don't quite understand it. I would be very happy if someone could explain it for me, or redirect me to a site that does.

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I have no idea what you mean. If you mean solving the equation sin(x)= sin(30 degrees) then the best I can come up with is not an "algorithm" but understanding:
certain x= 30 degrees is a solution (x= a is always a solution to f(x)= f(a) but not necessarily the only one.). Now think about the position on the unit circle. sin(θ) can be defined as the y coordinate of the point a distance θ around the unit circle from (1,0). But the horizontal line corresponding to that coordinate will, in general, cross the circle twice. It's pretty easy to see that if one is at 30 degrees, by symmetry, the other will be at 180-30= 150 degrees. Now use the fact that sine is periodic with period 360 degrees: sin(x)= sin(30) for x= 30+ 360n and x= 150+ 360n where n can be any integer.

I'm not at all comfortable solving equations like that in degrees rather than radians but you were the one that said "sin 30 degrees". I also have a feeling that you might be asking about FINDING sin 30 degrees. There is no one "algorithm" for that. You might go back to whichever of many equivalent definitions you are using for sin(x) or use Taylor's polynomial or the "Cordic" method which is what most calculators and computers use.
 
Sorry if I expressed me unclear. But I get pretty much what I wanted. Thank you.
 
Hmm. I've still problem with this. Look over this please.
sin(4x) = sin(6x)
4x=6x+360n
0=2x+360n
-2x=360n
2x=-360n
x=-180n
And
4x=180-6x+360n
10x=180+360n
x=18+36n
 
Looks good to me. To be extra sure, you might try plotting the graph of sin 4x - sin 6x, and see if you have all of the first few roots.
 
Sure I would if I had a graphic calculator. *dreaming*
 

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