High School Physics: What to Take Next Year?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the next steps for a high school student who has completed a basic physics course and is seeking guidance on advanced physics options available locally in the Boston area. The conversation touches on the transition from introductory physics to more advanced topics and the importance of mathematics in understanding modern physics.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that traditional high school physics is not reflective of current professional physics practice, suggesting a shift towards modern physics topics such as special relativity and quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of keeping up with advanced mathematics to understand modern physics, implying that practical knowledge is essential for career prospects in the field.
  • A suggestion is made for the student to consider an independent study in physics, potentially allowing them to cover a year of calculus-based introductory physics with guidance from a teacher.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of an independent study on college admissions, though it is also seen as a positive demonstration of initiative.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of traditional physics education versus modern physics applications. There is no consensus on the best path forward for the student, with various suggestions and perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of high school physics and the need for advanced mathematical knowledge, but do not resolve the specifics of what constitutes the best next step for the student.

Who May Find This Useful

High school students considering advanced physics courses, educators looking for insights on curriculum development, and individuals interested in the transition from basic to modern physics education.

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i don't want to give away too much personal info, but ill try to explain my situation as best as i can so that (hopefully) you can help me

i am in high school, and i have taken physics 1 (just the usual high school physics class) in harvard extension school w/o calc.

i know calc and I am finishing mv calc there. i was wondering what I am going to do next year in physics. i looked in HES and they don't offer a continuation to the course I am taking, and I am not sure where to look. basically I am looking for what i should take next year (in physics) that's local (i live in the boston MA area), not nesceserily an evening class, but I am not going to apply to a college since i still have 1 year of high school left. (I graduate 06).

any ideas?

also as a sort of P.S., what goes next in physics?
 
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Well Physics 1 (first year college physics and/or high school physics ) is not what physicists do professionally. Its what physicists did (electricity and magnetism)150-300(Newton's laws) years ago. Its important to know, because many of the ideas are simple special cases of modern physics, but its not what physicists do.

My school goes from INtro Physics to modern physics, which is a 2 quarter intro course in Special relativity, quantum mechanics, kinetic theory, wave particle duality, bohr atom, schroedinger equation, quantum statistics, lasers, solid state physics, free electron theory of metals.

From there we go into advanced classes that are more specific such as Electromagnetic Fields and Waves, Quantum Mechanics, Analytical Mechanics, Optics, Nuclear and Particle Physics, Thermal Physics, solid state physics, etc.
 
Real world applications of physics are more sophisticated than they were in the old days. Franznietzsche correctly points this out. You need more advanced knowledge now than in the past [what a shock]. The best way to stay ahead of the curve in modern physics is to stay ahead of the math. Ideas are cheap, math comes hard. Learn enough practical knowledge so you can drop out of the race for the genius trophy and settle for a lousy engineering job. At least you can pay the bills while morning. Anyways, you think Einstein had fun living off clerks pay while writing those relativity papers?
 
Congrats on covering so much material while still in hs. if you are finishing up with multivariate calc now, there are a number of things that could come next.

See if any of your science or math teachers will agree to supervise an "independent study" section of physics. If they will, come back to the forum for textbook recommendations. This way, you could potentially knock-out year of calc-based introductory physics.
Pros: Shows your initiative and motivations. Cheaper than taking an extension course. Cons: Will need to be addressed in college admissions essays. This isn't necessarily a con, but just requires you to elaborate on the "indep study" they'll see on your transcript.
 

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