Gorilla or chimpansee impregnating woman ?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of gorillas or chimpanzees impregnating humans, exploring the biological feasibility of such cross-species reproduction and the implications for offspring survival. It touches on genetic compatibility, chromosomal differences, and examples of hybrid animals.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that there have never been cases of gorillas or chimpanzees impregnating women, suggesting that no offspring would survive.
  • Others challenge this certainty by discussing chromosomal differences, noting that gorillas and chimpanzees have 48 chromosomes while humans have 46, which could lead to instability during cell division and make offspring unlikely.
  • One participant references examples of hybrid animals like mules and ligers to illustrate cross-breeding concepts.
  • Questions are raised about the implications of chromosomal aberrations, such as Down syndrome, and whether such conditions could affect reproductive possibilities with chimpanzees or gorillas.
  • There is mention of non-lethal chromosomal aberrations and their potential outcomes, although the relevance to the original question remains unclear.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the possibility of cross-species reproduction between humans and great apes, with some asserting it is impossible while others explore the nuances of genetic compatibility and hybridization.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about genetic compatibility and the implications of chromosomal differences, which are not fully resolved. The references to hybrid animals and chromosomal conditions introduce additional complexity without reaching a consensus.

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Were there any cases of gorilla or chimpansee impregnating woman ? would this offspring survive for long ?
 
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tumor said:
Were there any cases of gorilla or chimpansee impregnating woman ? would this offspring survive for long ?

Never. Would the offspring survive for long? There would be no offspring.

Nautica
 
...although Oliver had a lot of people guessing for a time.
http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/creatures/article.htm
 
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nautica said:
Never. Would the offspring survive for long? There would be no offspring.

Nautica
How are you so sure? The main problem with cross-breeding is when the number of chromosomes are not the same, besides the level of genetic diversion. Gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans have 48 chromosomes, humans 46: the cell will be unstable during division, so offspring is highly unlikely.

For examples of cross breeding you can look at mule/hinnys and ligers/tigons.
 
Monique said:
How are you so sure? The main problem with cross-breeding is when the number of chromosomes are not the same, besides the level of genetic diversion. Gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans have 48 chromosomes, humans 46: the cell will be unstable during division, so offspring is highly unlikely.

For examples of cross breeding you can look at mule/hinnys and ligers/tigons.

What is there to stop horses/ donkeys, or lions/ tigers becoming extinct then due to mixing species?
I read in that article above that the downs syndrome humans have 1 more chromosome. Is it possible to have 2 more chromosomes - a sort of double downs syndrome? And in this case, would it be possible this human to produce offspring with a chimpanzee? Or maybe vice versa?
 
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From what I know, if we disregard multiple copies of the sex chromosome, the doubled chromosome in Down' syndrome (I don't remember which chromosome) is the only non-lethal chromosomal aberration we know of.

In the case of the sex chromosome, I think XXY and even XXXY has been found; they are, I think, coupled to severe mental handicaps.
 
arildno said:
From what I know, if we disregard multiple copies of the sex chromosome, the doubled chromosome in Down' syndrome (I don't remember which chromosome)
http://www.google.com/search?q=trisomy+21



arildno said:
is the only non-lethal chromosomal aberration we know of.
http://www.google.com/search?q=trisomy+18+survive
http://www.google.com/search?q=trisomy+22+survive
http://www.google.com/search?q=trisomy+12+survive
http://www.medgen.ubc.ca/wrobinson/mosaic/trisomy6.htm


Trisomy mosaicisms from chromosome 2 through 23 are discussed at pages linked from here:
http://lymphedema.omno.org/thesite/trisomy_disorders.htm

Many are noted to have possible non-lethal outcomes.
 
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Thanks, hitsquad!
 

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