Compute the last digit of 2^2004

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around computing the last digit of \(2^{2004}\). Participants explore various methods, including patterns in the last digits of powers of 2, modular arithmetic, and potential connections to logarithms and rings.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using logarithms and modular arithmetic to approach the problem, though there is uncertainty about their necessity.
  • One participant identifies a pattern in the last digits of powers of 2: 2, 4, 8, 6, and notes that this pattern repeats every four terms.
  • Another participant proposes dividing the exponent by 4 to find the remainder, which corresponds to the last digit based on the identified pattern.
  • There is a suggestion that the concept of "rings" may relate to the periodicity observed in the last digits, though this is not fully clarified.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the ordering of the last digits and seeks clarification on how they were derived.
  • A later reply confirms understanding of the method for determining the last digit based on the remainder when dividing the exponent by 4.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence of a repeating pattern in the last digits of powers of 2, but there is no consensus on the necessity of logarithms or the interpretation of "rings." Some methods proposed remain contested.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the application of logarithms and the concept of rings, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of these mathematical tools in relation to the problem.

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Grettings! I've seen this on many competetions. You would need to use some logarithms, I've figured out. But then... Modula (or what is it, you know %). But I can't use it, and when I browsed mathweb, they babbeled something about rings. Maybe I need to check that out first. I donno.
 
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danne89 said:
Grettings! I've seen this on many competetions. You would need to use some logarithms, I've figured out. But then... Modula (or what is it, you know %). But I can't use it, and when I browsed mathweb, they babbeled something about rings. Maybe I need to check that out first. I donno.

What is your question??The one from the title?If so,the answer is not hard to get,and got forbid,it doesn't involve any logarithms.
Without getting too technical (the answer involves "modulo 4"),try to get a pattern for finding the last rot of the natural powers of 2.Try for the first ones.

A powerful software could give you the answer.The number doesn't have more than 700 digits...

Daniel.
 
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Note that we can find the folllowing pattern for the last digit:
[tex]2^{1}=2\to2[/tex]
[tex]2^{2}=4\to4[/tex]
[tex]2^{3}=8\to8[/tex]
[tex]2^{4}=16\to6[/tex]

[tex]2^{5}=32\to2[/tex]
[tex]2^{6}=64\to4[/tex]
And so on.
That is every fourth number will have the same ending digit.
Does that give you an idea as how to solve this?
 
Surely, just divide with the period.

Edit: No, I'm still stuck. :(
 
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Mathematicians like to say that 4=0(modulo 4).In your case,2004 divided by four gives the rest "0".But it's just like giving the rest 4,since u divided by 4.Therefore,draw the conclusion.

Daniel.
 
danne89 said:
Grettings! I've seen this on many competetions. You would need to use some logarithms, I've figured out. But then... Modula (or what is it, you know %). But I can't use it, and when I browsed mathweb, they babbeled something about rings. Maybe I need to check that out first. I donno.

Try this. Multiply 2 times 2. That gives you 4. Multiply 4 times 2. That gives you eight. Multiply 8 times 2. The last digit is 6. Multiply that by 2 (once again, only worrying about the last digit).

How long until the sequence repeats itself (is this what they meant by 'rings'?). In this case, you have 4 members - 2, 4, 8, 6.

Number each member. 2 is 1. 4 is 2. 8 is 3. 6 is 0.

Modulo divide your exponent by the number of members in your ring. In this case, by 4. You only worry about the remainder. The remainder in this case is 0, so the number ends in a 6.

You can do this with other numbers, as well.
 
BobG said:
How long until the sequence repeats itself (is this what they meant by 'rings'?). In this case, you have 4 members - 2, 4, 8, 6.

You can do this with other numbers, as well.

How did you ordered them?
 
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danne89 said:
How do you ordered them?

Well done... :-p With a little bit of red wine...

In the order given by consecutive ascending of natural powers of 2.

Daniel.
 
Thanks. I got it.
 
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Take the 2^n
divide n by 4
if you get remandier of
one it is 2
two it is four
three it is eight
none it is 6

I believe

quick test

2^9=
9/4 = 2 R of 1 which would make last digit a two
2^9= 512
 

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