What is the rotational kinetic energy of one molecule of Cl2

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The discussion revolves around calculating the rotational kinetic energy of a chlorine (Cl2) molecule, using parameters such as the distance between the chlorine atoms, their angular speed, and the molar mass of the molecule.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the rotational kinetic energy formula, with some uncertainty about the correct mass to use and the units involved. There are questions about the appropriateness of the radius and whether to convert angular speed to degrees.

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Some participants have provided calculations and expressed confusion about the derived units and the correctness of the formula used. There is an ongoing exploration of the moment of inertia and the need to clarify the mass of individual atoms within the molecule.

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Participants note the importance of using consistent units, particularly emphasizing the need for mass in kilograms and the implications of using the distance between particles versus the radius of rotation.

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In a crude model of a rotating diatomic molecule of chlorine (Cl2), the two Cl atoms are 2.00e-10 m apart and rotate about their center of mass with angular speed w = 1.40e12 rad/s. What is the rotational kinetic energy of one molecule of Cl2, which has a molar mass of 70.0 g/mol?

>> I wasn't exactly sure how to do this, so I thought I'd try with the rotational kinetic formula from the first half of General Physics. That formula was 1/2(m)(r^2)(w^2). I don't think it gave me the answer they were looking for... it wants an answer in Joules and I'm not sure where to start or how to finish it. Or if this is even along the right steps to take...

 
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Okay... I have:

r=2.00e-10 m
w=1.40e12 rad/s
m=70.0 g/mol

1/2 m(r^2)(w^2)
= 1/2 (70)(2.00e-10)^2(1.40e12)^2
= 2.74e6 J

Hmmm... is r wrong? Or should I change w to degrees? I'm not sure what to do...
 
Kawrae said:
Okay... I have:

r=2.00e-10 m
w=1.40e12 rad/s
m=70.0 g/mol

1/2 m(r^2)(w^2)
= 1/2 (70)(2.00e-10)^2(1.40e12)^2
= 2.74e6 J

Hmmm... is r wrong? Or should I change w to degrees? I'm not sure what to do...

It's good practice to include the units when showing your working. Correcting your working,

K = 1/2 (70.0 g/mol)(2.00e-10 m)^2 (1.4e12 rad/s)
= 2.74e6 g m^2/mol/s.

Now, I'm not sure what the significance of that derived unit is, but it's certainly not energy :wink:.

Your equation [itex]K = \frac{1}{2}Mr^2\omega^2[/itex] is clearly wrong as it is dimensionally inconsistent --- one side has units of kg m^2/s^2 and the other has g m^2/mol/s. The equation you're looking for is [itex]K = \frac{1}{2}I\omega^2[/itex] where [itex]I[/itex] is the moment of inertia of the rotating body. The equation for the moment of inertia of a continuous body is [itex]I= \int r^2\, dm[/itex], which, for the Cl[itex]_2[/itex] molecule is given by the discrete sum [itex]I = (1.00E-10 {\rm m})^2 m + (1.00E-10 {\rm m})^2 m[/itex]. To find the value of [itex]m[/itex], use the relationships[itex]n = \frac{m}{M}[/itex] and [itex]n = \frac{N}{N_\mathrm{A}}[/itex]. That should be all the info you need to complete the question.

P.S. Avoid using degrees at all in physics, except in particular disciplines such as astronomy.
 
Hi Kawrae,

In my opinion you are not so wrong with your approach. E_c=(1/2)*m*v^2 must work for all physical systems. When you have two particles in system you must add the two corresponding energies. But, m must be the mass of the particle (in Kg) and v=r*w where r is the radius of the trajectory (and not the relative distance between particles). So, you have

E_c=(1/2)*m*(r/2)^2*w^2+(1/2)*m*(r/2)^2*w^2=m*(r/2)^2*w^2=(1/4)*r^2*w^2

(here r is the distance between the two particles...then r/2 is the radius of the trajectory)

Now you have to calculate the mass m of a single atom (see the post of jdstokes).

Good luck!
 
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