What Is the Final Y Velocity When Two Bullets Merge?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two bullets fired at a 45-degree angle that collide and merge. Participants explore the implications of momentum conservation in both the x and y directions, particularly focusing on the final y velocity after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of the bullets, including their velocities and angles. There is a focus on how to apply conservation of momentum to determine the final y velocity after the collision. Some participants question the correctness of initial calculations and the application of momentum principles.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on applying conservation laws, while others express confusion about the problem setup and calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the final outcome yet.

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Participants note the importance of considering air resistance and the specific angles of the bullets. There is also mention of the need for clearer problem presentation, including potential diagrams.

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two bullets (bullet A and bullet B) are fired at a 45 degree angle to the horizontal. They hit each other and merge. If air resistance is not negligable, the x velocty would be zero since the initial velocites and mass of the two bullets are the same. This cancels each other out. What happens to the y velocity? Do I just add the y velocity of A with y velocity of B to get the final y velocity?
 
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I didn't understand anything...Please post your problem in the original form,maybe attach a drawing...

Daniel.
 
object A:
mass=m
x velocity=v
y velocity=v

object b:
mass=m
x velocity=-v
y velocity=v

The two object collide. object A from the left, object b from the right. Their mass now is 2m. Their final x velocity is 0. What is the y velocity?
 
Since I'm still not clear with the problen,then all i can do i advise you to apply the law of momentum conservation in a proper way.U'll get your result very easily.

Daniel.
 
yes,that's what I did. When the two bullets collided inelastically in the x direction, one having a momentum of mv and the other -mv the final velocity would be 0. However, the bullets were not traveling in just the x direction, but also the y direction. If I applied the law to the y-direction then... mv+mv=2mv2

The final velocity in the y directions is 2v.

However, I do not know if this is correct.
 
It can't be correct.Write the conservation of momentum on the "y" axis under the form
[tex]m\frac{v}{\sqrt{2}}+m\frac{v}{\sqrt{2}}=(2m) v'[/tex]

Find v'."v" is the modulus of the initial velocity for every bullet.

Daniel.
 
If they both have the same mass and speeds but come from opposite directions, at 45 degrees to the horizontal, then their final motion together will be directly up.
dextercioby's calculation is the right one for the speed.
 
why is it over radical 2? and not just mv?
 
The bullets are traveling at 45 degrees to the horizontal. If the magnitude of the momentum vector is mv, then the x and y components are each [itex]\frac{mv}{\sqrt{2}}[/itex].

If each bullet has speed v, at 45 degrees to the horizontal, toward each other, and mass m, then one has momentum vector [itex]\frac{mv}{\sqrt{2}}i+ \frac{mv}{\sqrt{2}}j[/itex] and the other has momentum vector [itex]-\frac{mv}{\sqrt{2}}i+ \frac{mv}{\sqrt{2}}j[/itex]. Their total momentum, which is the momentum of the "joined" bullets is [itex]0i+ \frac{2mv}{/sqrt{2}}j= 0i+ \sqrt{2}mvj[/itex[. As you say, the two x- components of momentum cancel. The y component of velocity is [itex]\sqrt{2}v[/itex].[/itex]
 

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