Uncertainty Calculation for a Complex Formula with Known Errors

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The discussion focuses on calculating the uncertainty of the formula q = [exp(x/2)][t^(1/2)], where both x and t have known uncertainties. The participants emphasize the importance of error propagation, specifically using the formula δq² = (∂q/∂t)² δt² + (∂q/∂x)² δx² to determine the uncertainty in q. While one participant expresses confusion regarding the application of calculus in error analysis, another confirms the validity of the formula for known errors. Resources such as the NIST and NPL websites are recommended for further exploration of uncertainty analysis.

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How do I calculate the uncertainty of


q = [exp(x/2)][t^(1/2)]

where both x and t have known uncertainties.

I could have done the thing if there was no exp(x/2) term. But that term is causing me a lot of stress.

Can someone please help me.
I am really confused.
James
 
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In one of my lab courses, we were given a short write-up on error analysis. It gave the formula that I'm going to put below. So you are trying to calculate a quantity q that depends on two other quantities you have measured (and therefore whose experimental uncertainties you know): x and t. Well, the uncertainty in both x and in t will affect the error in q, because q depends on both. Assuming that x and t are independent variables, the formula we were given for "Errors propagating through a functional relationship:"

[tex]\delta q^2 = \left(\frac{\partial q}{\partial t}\right)^2 \delta t^2 + \left(\frac{\partial q}{\partial x}\right)^2 \delta x^2[/tex]

where delta q represents the uncertainty in q, for example. This formula makes sense to me sort of, because the uncertainty in q depends on the individual uncertainties in x and t, as well as the rate at which q changes with each one. For instance, if dq/dt (<--meant to be partial) is large, the even a small delta t will affect q significantly. However, a friend of mine with a math BSc was telling me that these formulas aren't strictly correct, and that you're not actually supposed to be doing calculus per se. Error analysis seems to me to be a very complicated, convoluted subject. Hopefully somebody here will be able to comment on whether using this formula is indeed the best method.
 
At this time the formula that cephid quoted is correct. You have KNOWN errors, the problem arises when you do not know the errors. I have been reading a lot about error calculation lately because my employer needs to know the no (&()&) error for some of the apparatuses we use and bought commercially. The calculation of errors is essentially a mathematical problem, a very complex mathematical problem. If you go to the NIST website (www.nist.gov[/url]) or the NPL ([url]www.npl.co.uk[/URL]) and look for uncertainty analysis you'll find a massive amount of material out there. A good place to start is with John Mandel, Statistical Analysis of Experimental Data, I have learned enough to be somewhat dangerous.
 
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