Ethers are such compounds as Methoxymethane and Propoxyoctane

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The discussion revolves around the classification of certain organic compounds, specifically ethers and peroxides, with examples including Methoxymethane and Propoxyoctane. Participants explore the possibility of creating compounds with two oxygen atoms between hydrocarbon groups and clarify the naming conventions for such compounds.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether it is possible to create an ether with two oxygen atoms dividing hydrocarbon groups, proposing examples like Methdioxymethane and Propdioxyoctance.
  • Another participant asserts that a molecule with two connected oxygen atoms would be classified as a peroxide, not an ether, and mentions methods for synthesizing peroxides for the proposed compounds.
  • The initial participant later revises their proposed names to Methperoxymethane and Propperoxyoctance, seeking confirmation on the correctness of these names.
  • A subsequent correction leads to the naming of Methylperoxymethane and Propylperoxyoctance, with a request for validation of these terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some agreement on the classification of compounds with two oxygen atoms as peroxides rather than ethers. However, the discussion includes multiple proposed names and formulations, indicating a lack of consensus on the terminology.

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The discussion does not resolve the broader implications of naming conventions or the specific characteristics that differentiate ethers from peroxides.

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Just a very quick question.

Ethers are such compounds as Methoxymethane and Propoxyoctane. The shortened structural forumlae for these are [tex]CH_3 O CH_3[/tex] and [tex]C_3 H_7 O C_8 H_{17}[/tex]. I was wondering if it was possible to get an Ether with two oxygen atoms dividing the hydrocarbon groups;

E.g. Methdioxymethane [tex]CH_3 (O)_2 CH_3[/tex]

Propdioxyoctance [tex]C_3 H_7 (O)_2 C_8 H_{17}[/tex]

Cheers. :biggrin:

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
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A molecule with two oxygen atoms connected to each other would be a peroxide, not an ether. Yes there are methods of peroxide synthesis for the two molecules you mentioned.
 
so-crates said:
A molecule with two oxygen atoms connected to each other would be a peroxide, not an ether. Yes there are methods of peroxide synthesis for the two molecules you mentioned.

So it is:

Methperoxymethane [tex]CH_3 (O)_2 CH_3[/tex]

Propperoxyoctance [tex]C_3 H_7 (O)_2 C_8 H_{17}[/tex] ??

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
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The Bob said:
Methperoxymethane [tex]CH_3 (O)_2 CH_3[/tex]

Propperoxyoxtance [tex]C_3 H_7 (O)_2 C_8 H_{17}[/tex]

Let me correct myself:

Methylperoxymethane [tex]CH_3 (O)_2 CH_3[/tex]

Propylperoxyoctance [tex]C_3 H_7 (O)_2 C_8 H_{17}[/tex]

That right?

The Bob (2004 ©)
 
Yes, those are correct.
 

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