Question regarding Supernova SN1987

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around Supernova SN1987A, specifically focusing on the nature of the gas ring surrounding it and its relationship to the supernova explosion. Participants explore whether the gas ring was formed as a result of the explosion or existed prior to it, as well as the dynamics of the gas ring and shockwave interaction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the gas ring surrounding SN1987A resulted from the supernova explosion or was present beforehand.
  • Another participant asserts that the gas ring is a result of the star's explosion, explaining that the core collapse leads to the ejection of the outer layers of the star.
  • A participant raises a further question about the visibility of the gas ring as the shockwave approaches, inquiring how the gas ring could be outside the shockwave and why there is a difference in their velocities.
  • Another participant discusses the recoil effect during the core collapse, suggesting that this provides the gas shell with significant energy, which may explain its dynamics relative to the shockwave.
  • A participant references an external site that provides additional information on Type II supernovae and discusses the expanding gas shells and shockwave dynamics related to SN1987A.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the origin of the gas ring and its relationship to the shockwave, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully clarify the assumptions regarding the dynamics of the gas ring and shockwave, nor do they resolve the differences in velocity between the two. The discussion relies on specific definitions and interpretations of supernova phenomena.

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I have a question regarding Supernova SN1987A. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the gas ring that surrounds it was the result of the explosion itself, or if it was there prior to it?
 
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It's the result of the star going supernova. As the core collapses, the outer layers of the star are ejected.
 
Ok that's what I figured, but this brings up another question: the gas ring is supposed to become more visible as the shockwave approaches. However, I was wondering how the gas ring got outside the shockwave in the first place, and why is there a difference in velocity between the two?
 
When the core collapses, there is a recoil effect. In a supernova, this gives the gas shell a huge jolt of energy. Bear in mind, the initial collapse basically leaves the outer atmosphere as an abandoned child [when the core of the sun collapses, the outer shell will be outside the orbit of the Earth and the collapsed core will be about the same size as earth]. The aftershock of the core collapse propels the atmosphere.
 
Oblivion said:
Ok that's what I figured, but this brings up another question: the gas ring is supposed to become more visible as the shockwave approaches. However, I was wondering how the gas ring got outside the shockwave in the first place, and why is there a difference in velocity between the two?
This site here: http://www-astronomy.mps.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit3/supernova.html gives a good explanation of Type II supernovae (like 1987A) and even explains the expanding gass shells and shockwave as you are discussing.

Lower down the page, SN 1987A in particular is discussed.
 
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