Solving Kinematic Problems: Police Car Skid Marks

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The discussion revolves around a kinematic problem involving a police car's skid marks, specifically determining the initial speed of the car given the length of the skid marks and the constant deceleration. The context is set within a calculus assignment focused on motion under constant acceleration.

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  • Participants explore different methods to solve for the initial speed, including using the kinematic equation and integration. There is curiosity about whether integration can be applied effectively in this scenario.

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Several participants have calculated approximate initial speeds, with values around 88.5 m/s and 89.4 m/s being mentioned. There is acknowledgment of a solution using integration, and some participants express appreciation for the insights shared, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants note the absence of a time interval in the problem, which influences their approach to finding a solution. The discussion also highlights the nature of the assignment as a calculus task, which may impose specific constraints on the methods used.

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Kinematic problems!

hi there,here is my problem

The police observe that the skid marks of a stopping car are 200m long. Assuming the car decelerated at a constant rate of 20m/s^2,skidding all the way, how fast was the car going when the brakes were applied?

i think we can solve the problem by using the physics equation v^2=u^2+(2*(a*s))...and
i try to use integration but the time interval isn't given so i am just looking for an alternative way to solve this problem...by the way ,this is a calculus assignment.

thx
 
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Im getting Vi as 88.5 m/s
 
yes i got 89 something too...but i just wonder if this problem can be done by integration?

but thanks anyway
 
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http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/Math/skidding.PDF is a solution which uses integration. It starts with the basic fact that this is a problem with a constant acceleration and integrates the basic differential equation to arrive at the solution.
 
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thx integral it really help! :) thanks a lot
 
Because this is a constant acceleration problem (so that the velocity function is linear), you can use the "average" velocity.

Let v be the initial speed. Of course, the ending speed is 0 so the "average" speed, the average of those two numbers, is v/2.

Letting t be the (unknown) time required to stop, the distance is
(v/2)t= 200 m.

And we do know the time- in a sense. At an acceleration of -20 m/s^2, to go from v to 0 requires (since 0= v- 20t) v/20 sec.

Putting that into (v/2)t= 200 gives v^2/40= 200 or v^2= 8000.

v= [sqrt](8000)= [sqrt](1600*5)= 40[sqrt](5)= 89.4 m/s

If you're not really sure about that "average" speed, here's the standard way:

With acceleration a, the distance traveled is d= (a/2)t^2+ vt.
(You could say we use integration to get that.)

In this problem, -10t^2+ vt= 200.

Again, since the time taken to slow from v to 0 with acceleration
-20 m/s^2 is v/20 sec., we have (-10)v^2/400+ v^2/20= 200.
That is, -v^2/40+ v^2/20= v^2/40= 200 so v^2= 8000 again.
 

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