Add these 3 vectors to show that they all add up to zero

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The discussion revolves around the addition of three vectors, with the original poster expressing confusion about how these vectors can sum to zero. The context includes a diagram with two angles of 30 degrees and lengths of 1, although the specifics of the vector directions are unclear.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the vectors, questioning the original poster's statement about the number of vectors. There is a focus on the directions of the vectors and how they might cancel each other out. Trigonometric reasoning is suggested to analyze the components of the vectors.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the symmetry of the vectors and the use of trigonometry to understand their components. However, there is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the vectors or their arrangement.

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Participants note that the diagram and description lack clarity regarding the directions of the vectors, which is crucial for understanding how they might sum to zero. The original poster's confusion about the number of vectors is also highlighted.

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Can someone tell me how to add these 3 vectors to show that they all add up to zero. Even though there is 3 vectors somehow there is 5, don't really understand. The diagram is drawn below.If unclear, the two angles are 30 degrees and each length is 1. Thanks in advance.
 

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aek said:
Can someone tell me how to add these 3 vectors to show that they all add up to zero. Even though there is 3 vectors somehow there is 5, don't really understand. The diagram is drawn below.If unclear, the two angles are 30 degrees and each length is 1. Thanks in advance.

I have no idea what you mean by "even though there is 3 vectors somehow there is 5"!

One problem is that neither your diagram nor your description tells us in which of the two possible directions the vectors go. However, in order for them to cancel (add to 0), the vectors on the left must point to the left, the one on the right, to the right.

It should be clear from symmetry that the two vectors on the left, one going up at 30 degrees, the other down at 30 degrees will cancel vertically- that is the sum will on the horizontal axis.

The way of calculating that, as well as calculating the length of the vector
sum of the two on the left is to use trigonometry. The vector pointing to the left and upward forms a right triangle with the horizontal axis with angle 30 degrees and hypotenuse 1. Since sine is "opposite over hypotenuse",
sin(30)= y/1= y where y is the vertical component of the vector. Since cosine is "near side over hypotenuse", cos(30)= x/1 where x is the horizontal component of the vector.

Since the other left pointing vector has the same angle, you will get exactly the same vertical and horizontal values- except that since one is pointing up and the other pointing down, the vertical components will cancel while the horizontal will add. If you find cos(30) you should see immediately why the sum of those two will cancel the third, horizontal, vector.
 
Thanks a lot
 

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