What is the by-product when skeletal cells respire anaerobically ?

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The discussion centers on the by-products of anaerobic respiration in skeletal muscle cells, exploring the biochemical processes involved and the potential confusion regarding different fermentation pathways.

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  • Some participants propose that during anaerobic respiration in skeletal muscle cells, glucose is converted to pyruvic acid, which is then converted to lactic acid, making lactate a by-product.
  • Others mention that there is confusion regarding the by-products of anaerobic respiration, noting that while skeletal muscle cells produce lactic acid, other organisms, such as yeast, produce alcohol through fermentation.
  • A participant highlights that glycolysis is the first step of both aerobic and anaerobic respiration, and under anaerobic conditions, pyruvate is utilized in fermentation, leading to different end products depending on the cell type.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether glycolysis is the only anaerobic pathway for respiration in muscle cells, specifically regarding lactic acid production.
  • A participant humorously remarks on the misconception that anaerobic respiration in muscle cells could produce alcohol, suggesting that this misunderstanding might stem from the broader definition of fermentation.

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Participants generally agree that lactic acid is produced in skeletal muscle cells during anaerobic respiration; however, there is disagreement and confusion regarding the potential for alcohol production and the broader implications of fermentation processes in different organisms.

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The discussion reflects varying interpretations of anaerobic respiration and fermentation, with some participants acknowledging the need for clarification on the processes involved and the specific by-products produced in different cell types.

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What is the by-product when skeletal cells respire anaerobically ?
 
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I think you are asking about skeletal muscle cells and if so the conversion of glycogen to glucose and then glucose to pyruvic acid creates 2 ATP molecules for energy (all under anaerobic conditions). The pyruvate is rapidly converted to lactic acid if no O2 is around for the aerobic side of the equation, thus this lactate could be considered a by-product.
 
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Asking this question because i heard my friend saying that skeletal muscle cells give alcohol when respire anaerobically.
 
DocToxyn is correct, and the process of anaerobic process is known as glycolysis.
 
GoneRogue said:
DocToxyn is correct, and the process of anaerobic process is known as glycolysis.

Yes, DocToxyn is correct. However, glycolysis is the first step of cellular respiration, both aerobic and anaerobic (it uses NAD+ instead of oxygen as the electron acceptor, so can be an oxidative reaction even in the absence of oxygen).

Under anaerobic conditions, the product of glycolysis, pyruvate, is utilized in fermentation. In a muscle cell (as well as fungi and some bacterial cells), this would be lactic acid fermentation, as DocToxyn pointed out. The other possible fermentation reaction is alcohol fermentation, as is carried out by yeast and some other bacterial cells. This may be where the confusion came from because both processes are called fermentation, which refers to anaerobic respiration, but the end product is different in different cell types, so you name the process according to the end product.
 
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Asking this question because i heard my friend saying that skeletal muscle cells give alcohol when respire anaerobically.

Ahh, if only that were true, "runner's high" would have a whole new meaning. :wink:
 
well water is alcohol..
 
Moonbear said:
Yes, DocToxyn is correct. However, glycolysis is the first step of cellular respiration, both aerobic and anaerobic (it uses NAD+ instead of oxygen as the electron acceptor, so can be an oxidative reaction even in the absence of oxygen).

Under anaerobic conditions, the product of glycolysis, pyruvate, is utilized in fermentation. In a muscle cell (as well as fungi and some bacterial cells), this would be lactic acid fermentation, as DocToxyn pointed out. The other possible fermentation reaction is alcohol fermentation, as is carried out by yeast and some other bacterial cells. This may be where the confusion came from because both processes are called fermentation, which refers to anaerobic respiration, but the end product is different in different cell types, so you name the process according to the end product.

Ah, thanks Moonbear the clarification/extension.. I also noticed a blunder in my original post "process of anaerobic process", which should read "process of anaerobic respiration". So is glycolysis the only anaerobic pathway for respiration in muscle cells? That's more what I was thinking about, lactic acid production due to a lack of oxygen, since the OP mentioned skeletal muscle cells.
 
GoneRogue said:
Ah, thanks Moonbear the clarification/extension.. I also noticed a blunder in my original post "process of anaerobic process", which should read "process of anaerobic respiration". So is glycolysis the only anaerobic pathway for respiration in muscle cells? That's more what I was thinking about, lactic acid production due to a lack of oxygen, since the OP mentioned skeletal muscle cells.

In this thread I provided links for sites with animations of the three steps of aerobic respiration. In anaerobic respiration (absence of oxygen), instead of going from glycolysis to the Krebs cycle, you go from glycolysis to fermentation and can get either lactic acid or alcohol as a by-product. In skeletal muscle, it will be lactic acid.
 

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