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Loren Booda
Sep23-03, 11:49 PM
What is the relationship, if any other than homophony, between silicon and silicone?

HazZy
Sep24-03, 12:52 AM
silicone is a polymer of alternating Si and O bonds.

radagast
Sep24-03, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by HazZy
silicone is a polymer of alternating Si and O bonds.

Don't forget the methyl group side chains.

monomer unit of [(CH3)2SiO]

HazZy
Sep24-03, 09:01 PM
well yeah of course, except it doesn't need to be methyl groups.

Another God
Sep25-03, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by HazZy
well yeah of course, except it doesn't need to be methyl groups.

LOL, yeah, 'of course'...because we all knew about them [6)]

HazZy
Sep25-03, 01:04 PM
it's clear when you look at the valence of silicon and what's sitting right above it in the periodic table [:)]. however it's not 1/10 as versatile or abundant as carbon, which is why we don't see silicon based life anywhere around here [8)].

Chemicalsuperfreak
Sep25-03, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by HazZy
it's clear when you look at the valence of silicon and what's sitting right above it in the periodic table [:)]. however it's not 1/10 as versatile or abundant as carbon, which is why we don't see silicon based life anywhere around here [8)].

It's clear by the valence that silicone needs a methyl or some other alkyl group? Wow, I didn't know that, and I'm an organic chemist. And I guess I should toss my geology notes, because they say silicon is a far more abundant element than carbon.

HazZy
Sep25-03, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Chemicalsuperfreak
It's clear by the valence that silicone needs a methyl or some other alkyl group? Wow, I didn't know that, and I'm an organic chemist. And I guess I should toss my geology notes, because they say silicon is a far more abundant element than carbon. i was just saying that it's clear that silicone is not simply Si-O-Si-O..., which is what i said in the first reply. i never said "it's clear by the valence that silicone needs a methyl or some other alkyl group". please don't put words in my mouth...

and yeah silicon is more abundant in earth, but less abundant in the universe, i just got the two mixed up. which is just one of many reason silicon based life is not very likely in the universe. give me some slack, i wrote the last reply in math class...

radagast
Sep25-03, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by HazZy
it's clear when you look at the valence of silicon and what's sitting right above it in the periodic table [:)]. however it's not 1/10 as versatile or abundant as carbon, which is why we don't see silicon based life anywhere around here [8)].
Actually, you don't see them because they move slowly and are very clever. [:D]