How to Prove Divisibility in Math Problems?

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The discussion revolves around proving a mathematical statement regarding divisibility, specifically that for an odd positive integer n, either n+5 or n+7 is divisible by 4. Participants are exploring the reasoning behind this proof and discussing the properties of odd and even integers.

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  • The original poster attempts to use algebraic manipulation to demonstrate the divisibility of n+5 and n+7. They express confusion about proving that (k+3) or (k+4) is divisible by 2. Other participants suggest that since (k+3) and (k+4) are consecutive integers, one must be even, thus divisible by 2.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the properties of consecutive integers. There is a recognition that one of the two numbers must be divisible by 2, which is a productive direction in the discussion.

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The original poster expresses frustration with the concept of proofs and is seeking clarification on the reasoning involved. There is also mention of additional problems related to divisibility that may not be directly connected to the main topic.

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i just started my second semester with geomtry and am having difficulties with these proofs. i am stuck on this one question which asks:

prove that if n is an odd positive integer, then one of the numbers n+5 or n+7 is dividsible by 4.

so this is what i came up with:

let n = 2k+1

f(n)= n+5
= (2k+1)+5
= 2k+6
= 2(k+3)

So we know that 2 is divisible by 2 and now I am guessing i have to prove that (k+3) is divisible by 2 as well. then by using the factor tree thing we can say that since the 2 is divisible by 2 and (k+3) is divisible by 2, f(n) must be divisible by 4, no? but i don't get how to do this... am i doing something wrong?

i did the same exact method with f(n)= n+7 and ended up with f(n)= 2(k+4).

i just don't get all this proving stuff.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

- Tu
 
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You're basically "home",because you have to prove that one of the 2 no. K+3 or K+4 is divisible with 2,thing which is trivial.

Daniel.
 
so how would i show that (k+3) or (k+4) is divisible by 2... that what i don't understand. it looks to me that not all cases will be divisible by 2 making the statement false, but my teacher says that none of them are false. unless I am doing this question totally wrong... any ideas?

thnx.

- Tu
 
Can u show that from two consecutive natural numbers (as is the case with K+3 & K+4),one & only one is divisible by 2...??

Daniel.
 
yea tu it sucks balls (this is phillips)
 
oooo... omg i can't believe i didnt see that... so (k+3) and (k+4) are consecutive number, which mean one of them must be even, making one of them divisible by 2 correct?

- Tu
 
yes
also you didnt need to substitute if you think about it, you already had the consecutive pairs

n, n+5, and n+7
n being odd, you are adding 1 to make it even, than another 4
if that isn't divisible, the other pair adds another 2, so it must be divisible if the other wasnt.
 
Omg man thnx a lot... i apreciate it man

- Tu

lol, hey wats up Philips, didnt know u go on here lol
 
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ooo i got yea philips... i should have seen that coming... man i hate this proof stuf... brutal...
 
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hey daniel while you are here
how would you do

prove that n^5 - 5n^3 + 4n is always divisible by 120 when n is greater than or equal to 3

and prove that there are no integer solutions to the equation 2x + 4y = 5
since both 2 and 4 are even numbers, does that alone prove there are no solutions?
thanks!
 

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