How do I solve complex differential equations involving velocity and time?

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The discussion revolves around solving complex differential equations involving velocity and time, specifically focusing on two equations that describe horizontal and vertical velocities as functions of time. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques related to differential equations.

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  • One participant presents two differential equations involving horizontal velocity (V) and vertical velocity (H), expressing confusion about how to solve them.
  • Another participant points out that the "dt" is missing from the right-hand side of the equations, suggesting that it should be included for proper integration.
  • A third participant emphasizes the importance of balancing units in differential equations, indicating that both sides must be differentials.
  • After correcting the equations to include "dt," the original poster asks how to proceed with integration.
  • One participant suggests that the original poster should have integrated directly after separating variables, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the process.
  • Another participant notes that the equations have changed significantly and reiterates the need to separate variables before integrating.

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Participants express differing opinions on the correct approach to solving the equations, particularly regarding the steps to take after correcting the equations. There is no consensus on the best method to proceed with the integration.

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Participants have pointed out missing elements in the equations and have differing views on the integration process, indicating potential limitations in the original problem setup and the understanding of the solution steps.

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I know at some point, years ago, I could differential equations in my sleep. But now after going through my old math book and reading a number of the threads here, I'm really confused. The problem I am looking to solve looks like this:

[itex] dV = - \mu V^2 t - \beta t[/itex]

where mu and beta are constants, t is time and V is horizontal velocity. I want to compute the horizontal velocity at time t given the initial horizontal velocity, mu and beta. My problem gets more complex with the second equation I need to solve:

[itex] dH = \gamma V^2 t - \alpha t[/itex]

where gamma and alpha are constants, t is time, V is horizontal velocity and H is vertical velocity. I want to compute the vertical velocity at time t given the initial horizontal velocity. I've been going nuts trying to make this work in my head. They look like rudimentary textbook problems, but I just can't seem to make sense of them. Could someone walk me through the steps?
 
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In both equations the "dt" is missing.I can assume it should be in the RHS,case in which i would advise you to integrate directly both sides of the equations...

Daniel.
 
yes, the basic rule is balance units: i.e. if one side is a differential, the other is too.
 
Oops. Sorry, the t should have been dt. Corrected:

[itex] dV = - \mu V^2 dt - \beta dt[/itex]

[itex] dH = \gamma V^2 dt - \alpha dt[/itex]

So, how do I integrate these? Let's take the first one and divide by dt. Then I get:

[itex] \frac {dV} {dt} = - \mu V^2 - \beta[/itex]

Now what...
 
You needn't have done that.U already had separated variables and u only had to integrate.

Daniel.
 
EDIT:You've changed your equations a great deal and now the advice goes:SEPARATE VARIABLES...

Daniel.
 

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