What do you see at light speed?

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The discussion revolves around the question of what an observer would perceive when traveling at or near the speed of light, focusing on the visual distortions and effects experienced in such a frame of reference. The conversation touches on theoretical implications, visualizations, and the nature of reference frames in relativistic physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that at near light speed, the Earth would appear to pass by very quickly, potentially requiring high-speed cameras to capture the experience in detail.
  • One participant notes that an object traveling at light speed lacks a reference frame, leading to the conclusion that time and distance would behave differently, approaching zero in certain contexts.
  • Another participant mentions the term "Terrell rotation," indicating that objects would appear distorted and rotated due to relativistic effects.
  • It is proposed that distortions occur because length contraction affects only the direction of travel, leading to a "pancaking" effect on the visual field.
  • Some argue that only objects with high relative velocities would appear distorted, while those moving with the observer would remain unaffected.
  • A claim is made that if an object were to reach the speed of light, it would not see anything, as its length would approach zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of views on the nature of visual perception at light speed, with no consensus reached on the specifics of what would be seen or the implications of traveling at such speeds.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about reference frames and relativistic effects, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion includes various interpretations of visual phenomena without resolving the underlying complexities.

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Maybe this has been answered before, but when you approach the speed of light what do you see out of your eyes in your frame of reference. Now I have seen websites with animations of what it looks like when you approach c, but I don't understand how you can see what you see like that. I think of when you speed up that everything goes by you really fast and it goes behind you or it moves away from you according to your direction of travel. Why do you see all these distortions and slowing down objects when you are traveling at light speed. I mean if you can go 186,000 miles/per sec. than you would be away from the Earth in a instant, so why do you still see things around you from earth?
 
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If you were traveling near light speed, you would indeed see the entire Earth go by "in a flash". You'd need a (very!) high-speed camera that you could watch in slow motion in order to see (in retrospect) what had happened while you were flying by.

If your camera could capture a million frames per second, you'd move almost 1000 ft between frames (even more if you had significant time dilation) if you were moving at near light velocity.

The mathetmatics of what you would see if you had the capability to watch it in such "slow motion" has been discussed here in the past, but I'm not sure if you want to get into that much detail. If you do, search physicsforum (and the WWW) for the phrase "Terrell rotation". The physicsforum search can be accessed from the toolbar near the top of the page.
 
The question of what you would see at light speed isn't really meaningful, because on object traveling at light speed doesn't have a reference frame of its own, and a clock which approaches light speed will get arbitrarily close to being completely frozen in our frame, with the distance between any two points on its journey getting arbitrarily close to zero in its frame (so from its point of view, the time to cross between any two landmarks at a given distance apart in our frame, like our galaxy and the Andromeda galaxy, will approach zero). But for some good visualizations of what things would look like as you travel at some large fraction of light speed, check out this page:

http://www.anu.edu.au/Physics/Searle/

Also see What would a relativistic interstellar traveller see?
 
Raptor483 said:
Maybe this has been answered before, but when you approach the speed of light what do you see out of your eyes in your frame of reference.
It depends on what you're looking at of course. I forgot how things actually "look" outside the window. Objects appear rotated/distorted as I recall. Look up the term "Terell rotation" and see what you get.

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Raptor483 said:
Maybe this has been answered before, but when you approach the speed of light what do you see out of your eyes in your frame of reference. Now I have seen websites with animations of what it looks like when you approach c, but I don't understand how you can see what you see like that. I think of when you speed up that everything goes by you really fast and it goes behind you or it moves away from you according to your direction of travel. Why do you see all these distortions and slowing down objects when you are traveling at light speed. I mean if you can go 186,000 miles/per sec. than you would be away from the Earth in a instant, so why do you still see things around you from earth?


The distortions happen because lengths get contracted only in the
direction you are moving, not to the sides. If you squeeze one space
coordinate but not the other two, you tend to "pancake" what you would
otherwise see.

Also, time is being affected but for all directions, not just the forward one.


This is one of those case were the equations should be studied until
they make complete physical sense. (Don't try that with a quantum
Psi function...)
 
Only objects which have a high relative velocity to your spaceship will appear distorted. The objects traveling with you or those with a small relative velocity will be unaffected by your speed.
 
if v = c then L = 0 which means you won't see anything, and nothing can see you.
 

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