Help with Solving 1 + (root3+1)^2/root3+1

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The discussion centers around solving the mathematical expression \( \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}+1} + (\sqrt{3}+1)^2 \). Participants are seeking clarification on the steps involved in simplifying or calculating this expression, with a focus on mathematical reasoning.

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  • One participant requests help with the expression, indicating urgency in understanding the solution process.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on what the original poster is trying to find, suggesting a need for clearer communication of the problem.
  • A third participant reformulates the expression as \( \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}+1} + (\sqrt{3}+1)^2 \), attempting to clarify the mathematical representation.
  • One participant claims to have arrived at the result \( \frac{5}{2}\sqrt{3} + \frac{7}{2} \), but does not provide the steps leading to this conclusion.
  • A later reply acknowledges a mistake in the previous calculations, indicating that the expression does not work as initially thought and attempts to provide a corrected approach, leading to the same result of \( \frac{5}{2}\sqrt{3} + \frac{7}{2} \).

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the solution process, as there are indications of confusion and corrections being made throughout the discussion. Multiple approaches and interpretations of the expression are presented, leading to unresolved aspects of the problem.

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There are indications of missing assumptions and potential errors in the calculations, particularly regarding the manipulation of the expression and the handling of the denominator. The steps taken by participants vary, leading to different interpretations of the solution.

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HELP! PLease cna someone explain how to do this quck please?!

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What are you trying to find?
 
[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}+1}+(\sqrt{3}+1)^2[/tex]
is I believe what he was trying to get the answer to.

EDIT: Bah, read below...
 
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I got [tex]\frac{5}{2}\sqrt{3}+\frac{7}{2}[/tex]
 
What? Wait... d'oh! I forgot to divide the other half of the expression by [tex]\sqrt{3}-1[/tex]... Seems like the whole thing doesn't work now...

Then you have to go about it like so:

[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}+1}+(\sqrt{3}+1)^2[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{1+(\sqrt{3}+1)^3}{\sqrt{3}+1}[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{(1+(\sqrt{3}+1)^3)(\sqrt{3}-1)}{(\sqrt{3}+1)(\sqrt{3}-1)}[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{\sqrt{3}-1+2(\sqrt{3}+1)^2}{2}[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{\sqrt{3}-1+4\sqrt{3}+8}{2}[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{5\sqrt{3}+7}{2}[/tex]
[tex]=\frac{5}{2}\sqrt{3}+\frac{7}{2}[/tex]

Which is far more correct...
 

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