Understanding the Product Rule in Calculus: Solving for y = x ln x

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y = x ln x, specifically focusing on the application of the product rule in calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the correct application of the product rule, with some attempting to clarify the roles of f and g in the context of the function. Questions arise regarding the derivative of ln x and how it interacts with the product rule.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the product rule and its application to the function. Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding, while others provide guidance on identifying the components of the product rule. Multiple interpretations of the derivative are being discussed without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the derivative of ln x and its application in the context of the product rule, indicating a need for further clarification on foundational concepts.

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y = x ln x

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{x ln x} \cdot 1[/tex]

Is that correct?
 
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wrong... use product rule

[tex]\frac{d}{dx} (fg) = \frac{df}{dx}g+f\frac{dg}{dx}[/tex]
 
And how would that look like? Which is f & which one is g? :confused:
 
Hmm I'm not great at this but,

y = x lnx
I was gunna say.. that whenever you take the derivative of logs.. 1/function * derivative of that function
so that'd give you
y = (1/xlnx)(1/x)
but by using the product rule...
y = 1(xlnx) + x(1/x))
Hmm, definitely don't listen to me, i don't know WHats going on. Here to learn!
 
SphericalStrife said:
Hmm I'm not great at this but,

y = x lnx
I was gunna say.. that whenever you take the derivative of logs.. 1/function * derivative of that function
so that'd give you
y = (1/xlnx)(1/x)
I was taught that way. How did you get 1/x?
 
hmm I think i might just be being stupid. 1/x is the known derivative of lnx.. but i guess with that other x there.. x lnx, you would need to use product rule like that guy said?
 
Oh I see...
SphericalStrife said:
1/x is the known derivative of lnx
How do you know it?
 
Use product rule. f(x)=x and g(x)=ln(x)
Now just find derivatives
y = x'*lnx + x*ln(x)'
 
Yeah I got it. Thank you.
 

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