Electric Field of 90° Arc of 2 Wires w/ Uniform Charge - Q/πR^2

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The problem involves calculating the electric field at the origin due to two wires shaped as 90-degree circular arcs with uniform charge distributions. The wires are positioned in the second and fourth quadrants, each carrying charges of +Q and -Q. The original poster attempts to derive an expression for the electric field using the electric field of a line charge.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of charge density and the need for integration with respect to theta. There are questions about the appropriateness of approximating the wires as infinitely long and straight, as well as concerns about missing terms in the charge density.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on revisiting Coulomb's law and questioning the original poster's approach to charge density. There is recognition of the need to clarify the mathematical expressions being used, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with the charge density's units and the implications of the wires' geometry on the calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the integration and the overall setup of the problem.

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two wires in the shape of a 9o degrees circular arc of radius R have charges
+(-) Q distributed uniformly on them. They are positioned opposite each other in the second and 4th quadrants. Show that the electric field at the origin is
[tex]\frac{4kQ}{\pi R^2}[/tex]

I tried starting with the electric field of a line
[tex]\frac{2k\lambda}{r}[/tex]

[tex]\lambda=\frac{Q}{d\theta}[/tex]

plugged that in, and then i wasn't sure what to do... integrate with respect to theta? but then i wasn't sure how to do that when theta was in the denom... help?
 
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You're missing a term in your charge density. Check the units -- they should be charge per length.


Anyways, for the line approximation to be useful, you have to be close enough so that the wire is effectually an infinitely long, straight line. When you're way over at the origin, the wires look neither infinitely long, nor straight.


I would go all the way back to Coulomb's law.
 
Hurkyl said:
You're missing a term in your charge density. Check the units -- they should be charge per length.


Anyways, for the line approximation to be useful, you have to be close enough so that the wire is effectually an infinitely long, straight line. When you're way over at the origin, the wires look neither infinitely long, nor straight.


I would go all the way back to Coulomb's law.

you're right... back to the drawing board
 
ok so coulumbs law... I'm not sure how to get [tex]\pi[/tex] out of that...
can i say
[tex]E=\frac{kdQ}{r^2d\theta}[/tex]

and then if so, can i integrate that... I'm sorry, I'm looking at it and it looks really obvious, but i can't get it to do anything...
 
Well, a lot of that expression is constant...

I don't think you have the expression right though... I still think you're missing a factor in the charge density, and you need to use the vector form.
 

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