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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two long, parallel wires that carry currents in opposite directions and hang at an angle due to the forces acting on them. Participants are exploring how to approach the problem, which involves concepts from both magnetism and statics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to solve the problem and mentions that the current should be positive due to the opposite directions of the currents.
  • Another participant challenges the notion that the problem is purely about magnetism, suggesting it is fundamentally a statics problem and prompts consideration of the forces acting on the wires.
  • A different participant advises drawing free body diagrams to analyze the forces on the wires, indicating that this will help in calculating the necessary parameters.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding that current flows in a direction rather than being classified as positive or negative, and outlines key factors to consider, such as the force between the wires, their weight, and how they deflect under applied forces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best approach to the problem. There are differing views on the nature of the problem, with some focusing on the magnetic aspects while others emphasize the statics involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention several factors that need to be considered, such as the force exerted by one wire on the other, the weight of the wires, and the deflection caused by applied forces. However, the discussion does not resolve how these factors interrelate or how to apply them mathematically.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals studying physics, particularly those interested in the interplay between magnetism and statics in problems involving current-carrying conductors.

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Two long, parallel wires hang by 4.00-cm-long cords from a common axis. The wires have a mass per unit length of 1.50×10-2 kg/m and carry the same current in opposite directions.

What is the current in each wire if the cords hang at an angle of 6-degrees with the vertical?

Basically,,,,,I have no idea how to approach or solve this proble. All I know is the curremt should be positive because the currents in the wires are opposite each other.

aghhh help me please
 
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QUOTE=Elbhi:" All I know is the curremt should be positive because the currents in the wires are opposite each other."

Wat do you mean...?It's not an magnetism problem,its a STATICS problem.What forces act on the wires...?

Daniel.
 
Ya, draw free body diagrams and solve it like you would a normal statics problem. Once you know the forces on the wire then you can calculate everything you need to.
 
Elbih,

You must clear your mind on a few concepts. Current is not positive or
negative, it flows in a particular direction like water in a pipe.
Voltage is either positive or negative and is like the pressure in the pipe.

You need to know a few things:

1) How much force does one wire exert on the other as a function of their
distance apart
2) How much do the wires weigh
3) How do the wires deflect when you apply a force to them

If you combine all these into a suitable set of equations, the answer will
fall out.
 

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