Approximating Pi and e with Linear Algebra

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the approximation of the mathematical constants Pi and e using linear algebra and concepts from "n-euclid space." Participants explore whether there are formulations or methods within linear algebra that can effectively approximate these constants.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Derek Mohammed, inquires about formulations of Pi or e that utilize linear algebra for approximation.
  • Another participant references historical proofs regarding the transcendental nature of e and Pi, mentioning contributions from Nagell, Liouville, Hermite, and Lindeman.
  • A subsequent reply challenges the accuracy of the initial historical claims regarding the proofs of transcendence, suggesting that the original statement was misquoted.
  • Further clarification is provided about the distinction between algebraic, irrational, and transcendental numbers, with a suggestion to review resources on these topics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the historical context of the proofs related to the transcendental nature of Pi and e, indicating a lack of consensus on the accuracy of the claims made.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to historical mathematical proofs and definitions that may require further clarification for participants unfamiliar with the terms used.

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Readers interested in the mathematical properties of Pi and e, as well as those exploring the intersection of linear algebra and number theory.

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I was wondering if there are any formulations of Pi or e that use "n-euclid space" to approximate it? Or really just the use of any linear algebra to approximate Pi or e?

Thanks...

Derek Mohammed
 
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Nagell 1951), and Liouville proved in 1844 that e does not satisfy any quadratic equation with integral coefficients (i.e., if it is algebraic, it must be algebraic of degree greater than 2).

(Mathworld on e)

almost the same goes for pi.

[cutie of the month: pi(pi + 1/e - 1/(4(pi^3)))= 11.0000014549696...]
 
Excuse me?? I was under the impression that Liouville proved that a number (that he constructed for the purpose) was transcendental, Hermite proved that the number e was transcendental in 1873 and Lindeman proved that pi was transcendental in 1882.
 
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