What causes wheel to go in straight motion?

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The discussion revolves around the principles governing the motion of three-wheeled vehicles, particularly focusing on how they can maintain straight motion. Participants explore various factors including wheel alignment, tire characteristics, and vehicle stability.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that friction plays a crucial role in the motion of vehicles, with rubber tires providing high static friction that aids in straight movement.
  • Others discuss the importance of wheel alignment and the relationship between the front and rear wheels in maintaining straight motion.
  • A participant mentions that three-wheeled cars are statically balanced, contrasting them with two-wheeled vehicles that require dynamic balance through motion.
  • There is a query about the best type of tires for producing straight motion, with responses indicating that various tire characteristics must be considered based on specific vehicle needs.
  • Some participants argue that steering calibration is essential for cars to drive straight, noting that misalignment can lead to drifting.
  • One participant explains that the inherent stability of cars is due to the steering axis being in front of the axis of rotation, which helps the wheels to self-straighten.
  • Concerns are raised about potential issues with tire size and shape affecting straight motion, suggesting that problems like uneven tires or bent axles could cause directional drift.
  • There is a discussion about the benefits of different wheel sizes, with one participant asserting that there are no inherent benefits to either larger or smaller wheels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the factors influencing straight motion in three-wheeled vehicles, with no clear consensus on the best approach or solutions. Multiple competing perspectives on tire characteristics, vehicle stability, and alignment issues remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific conditions such as vehicle type, intended use, and environmental factors. The discussion includes assumptions about tire performance and vehicle design that are not universally applicable.

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Individuals interested in vehicle dynamics, automotive engineering, or those working on projects involving three-wheeled vehicles may find the insights shared in this discussion relevant.

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Hi,

What is the simple principle that governs cars with 3 wheels going forward?
What are the specifications for the front wheel and the back 2 wheels? Do they have to have a specific ratio? Or something else? Please advice.
 
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It's quite simple, actually.

It's all about the friction. Rubber, which is commonly used for tires has a very high coefficient of static friction against most materials, so if you apply the brakes, it basically goes nowhere.

Because of its cylinder-like shape it can only roll easily in two directions - back and forth. This restricts the wheel to going in two directions only. Turn the wheel and/or apply rolling torque to make the vehicle go in the desired direction at the desired acceleration.
 
a three wheel car is statically ballanced, meaning it doesn't have to do anything to be stationary and tip over. 2 wheeled machines like bikes need to be dynamically ballanced through motion.

Regards,

Nenad
 
what kind of tires are best to produce straight motion?
 
PrudensOptimus said:
what kind of tires are best to produce straight motion?
Tires can be made of virtually any solid and still produce straight line motion. Wheels only rotate about one axis and the alignment of the front and rear axis dictate the direction of vehicle motion. The rate at which a vehicle can turn is governed in part by tire composition but asking which is the best without giving any desired characterists is like asking what is the best vegetible. What size vehicle will this be? How fast will it go? What driving conditions do you expect? What safety margins do you want to use? What is your desired rate of straight-line acceleration? Tread design, tire composition, width, profile, radius--you have to look at all of these fetures to determine which will suit your needs the best.
 
The thing about cars is that their steering is calibrated after they roll off the production line. They are adjusted to drive straight. Like all other cars, this will eventuially drift out of true, and any car not perfectly tuned will not drive in a straight line without someone at the wheel.
 
Cars are inherrently stable: the axis of stering is in front of the axis of rotation (think, a castor on a gocery store cart), which causes the wheels to "want" to straighten out. That's why when you let go of the steering wheel, it turns to center. As long as the two front wheels are aligned with each other, the car will be inherrently stable and drive straight.

Tires have nothing to do with it, as long as they are identical from side to side.
 
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so how can i make my autonomous small car go in straight direction? It has a wheel in the front, and 2 wheels in the back.
 
Well, you can start by not turning the wheels. I don't understand your problem. What are you doing to not make your car go straight? Are you turning the wheels? Did you make sure the wheels were alighed? Do you have a weight distribution problem?
 
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PrudensOptimus - the terms to use here would be "true" or "runout" to describe some of the problems.

One tire is probably bigger, out of round and oblong shaped, and/or the axle is bent.

This would make the vehicle tend to turn one direction and hop up and down.

Replace the tires and axles or at the very least swap the side they are mounted on. Does the problem change at all?
 
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What are benefits of bigger wheels and smaller wheels?
 
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No benefit to either.

Have you tried swapping/replacing the parts in question to see if the problem is resolved?
 

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