Integrals of sqrt (simple, but I am getting frustrated)

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The discussion revolves around the integral of the function sqrt(1-4x^2), with participants exploring methods for solving it, particularly focusing on trigonometric substitution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the potential use of trigonometric substitution and question how to initiate the integral. Suggestions include finding a suitable substitution to simplify the expression under the square root.

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Multiple approaches are being explored, including trigonometric and hyperbolic substitutions. Some participants provide detailed steps for the trigonometric method, while others express uncertainty about the initial steps and the overall process.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the correct substitution and the method to eliminate the square root, with participants questioning assumptions about the setup and the nature of the integral.

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I have been studying all day, and this little bugger keeps bothering me.
How do I start this integral.
int{sqrt(1-4x^2)}
And what method do I use to solve it. Substitution or by Parts?

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can you think of some function [tex]f(u)[/tex] such that making the substitution [tex]x = f(u)[/tex] will make [tex]1-4x^2[/tex] into a perfect square?

Think trig.
 
Try using trig substitutions, if youve learned that already. Substitute x = (sinu)/4, and the integral will become int{sqrt(1-sinu^2)}dx,

From there translate 1-sinu^2 to cosu^2 and go ahead and simplify sqrt(cos^2u).

Dont forget since you made a change of variable you must change dx to du, do so by deriving your new x equation (x = sinu/4) and putting it into your integral. dx = (cosu/4)*du, du = 4dx/cosu

So your integral will become int{cosu*4/cosu*du}. Your cosins will cancel and your final integral should become int{4*du}
 
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pft, sure, don't give her the chance to think about my question on her own!
 
Sorry you weren't there when I posted my reply, you beat me to it :)
 
And since you've posted that reply already, I should point out that you actually want to sub [tex]x = \frac{\sin{u}}{2}[/tex], not [tex]x = \frac{\sin{u}}{4}[/tex]! :smile:
 
But how does that help me, because I still don't understand what process to use or where to start with the sqrt?
 
By making the trig substitution, you will eliminate the square root because you will be square rooting cos^2(x). The square root of cos^2(x) is cos(x). After you are done with that part, you will have to convert the integral from dx to du by the steps above. After solving the integral you will have an expression in terms of u which you can solve for x by the relationship x = sinu/2
 
It's a method called "trigonometric substitution."

Let's see what happens when we sub in [itex]x = \frac{\sin{u}}{2} \Longrightarrow dx = \frac{\cos{u}}{2}du[/itex]:

we get

[tex]\sqrt{1 - 4x^2} = \sqrt{1 - 4\frac{\sin^2{u}}{4}} = \sqrt{1 - \sin^2{u}}[/tex]

Recalling that [itex]\cos^2{u} = 1 - \sin^2{u}[/itex], this just turns into

[tex]\sqrt{\cos^2{u}} = \cos{u}[/tex]

Thus your integral is

[tex]\int \sqrt{1 - 4x^2} dx = \int \cos{u} dx[/tex]

and substituting in for [itex]dx[/itex], this is just

[tex]\int \frac{\cos^2{u}}{2}du[/tex]

and I'm sure you can work it out from there :)

As I mentioned, this is an example of a method called trigonometric substitution. Some other examples are integrands involving [itex]\sqrt{a^2 + x^2}[/itex] in which we substitute [itex]x = a\tan{u}[/itex] to give [itex]\sqrt{a^2 + a^2\tan^2{u}} = \sqrt{a^2\sec^2{u}} = a\sec{u}[/itex], or involving [itex]\sqrt{x^2 - a^2}[/itex] where we sub [itex]x = a\sec{u}[/itex] to make a similar simplification.
 
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ahh, you beat me this time!
 
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Instead of using sec & tan,u can very nicely use [itex]\sinh,\cosh[/itex]...

Hyperbolic trigonometry is useful & elegant.
 

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