Which term should be chosen for u(x) in integration by parts?

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The discussion revolves around finding the indefinite integral of the expression \(\int \frac{x^2}{(2+ x^3)} dx\). Participants are exploring the application of integration by parts and questioning the appropriateness of this method for the given integral.

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  • Participants discuss the integration by parts formula and whether it is suitable for this integral. There are suggestions to consider substitution instead, specifically using \(u = x^3\) to simplify the integral. Some participants also reflect on the choice of \(u(x)\) in the integration by parts context.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants expressing confusion about the integration method while others provide alternative approaches. There is no explicit consensus on the best method, but various strategies are being explored, including substitution and integration by parts.

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ok i`m really struggling with the concept.
I've been asked to find the indefinite integral of;

[tex]\int \frac{x^2}{(2+ x^3)} dx[/tex]

so before i beg for the answer could someone confirm that i`ve got the right rule to solve this;

[tex]\int u(x) v'(x) = [ u(x) v(x)] - \int v(x) u'(x)[/tex]

if this is right would you mind giving a suggestion to what u(x) to use?

p.s. i may have to edit this if latex doesn`t come out right I've been having trouble with it and only jointed the forum a few day's ago!
 
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Yes, that is the correct formula (it's surely in your textbook), but I don't see any good reason for using integration by parts. That's a fairly standard anti-derivative: look up "arctangent".
 
I`ve just edited it. Now it`s integration by parts! see I`m getting all flustered
 
Actually, you still don't need integration by parts. Substituting [itex]u = x^3[/itex] will simplify it to a standard form.

Anyways, since differentiation is in some sense the inverse operation to integration, every differentiation rule yields an integration rule. I'm sure you remember the product rule:

[tex]\frac{d}{dx}(f(x) g(x)) = f^\prime (x) g(x) + g^\prime (x) f(x)[/tex]

Rearraging the equation above gives

[tex]f(x) g^\prime (x) = \left[f(x) g(x)\right]^\prime - f^\prime(x)g(x)[/tex]

And integrating both sides with respect to x gives

[tex]\int f(x) g^\prime (x) \ dx = \int \left(\frac{d}{dx} (f(x) g(x)) - f^\prime(x)g(x)\right) \ dx[/tex]

but certainly, [tex]\int \frac{d}{dx}(f(x)g(x)) \ dx = f(x)g(x)[/tex], so this just reduces to

[tex]\int f(x)g^\prime (x) \ dx = f(x)g(x) - \int g(x) f^\prime (x) \ dx[/tex]

which is what your teacher probably called the formula for integration by parts.
 
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[tex]x^{2}dx=\frac{1}{3}d(2+x^{3})[/tex] so the integration is simple...

Daniel.
 
zanazzi78 said:
ok i`m really struggling with the concept.
I've been asked to find the indefinite integral of;

[tex]\int \frac{x^2}{(2+ x^3)} dx[/tex]

so before i beg for the answer could someone confirm that i`ve got the right rule to solve this;

[tex]\int u(x) v'(x) = [ u(x) v(x)] - \int v(x) u'(x)[/tex]

if this is right would you mind giving a suggestion to what u(x) to use?

p.s. i may have to edit this if latex doesn`t come out right I've been having trouble with it and only jointed the forum a few day's ago!
As others have said, you don't have to use integration by parts to solve this, but ...

Pick the term whose derivative will eventually go to zero (the soonest). In this case, it's x^2. First derivative is 2x. Second derivative is 2. Third derivative is 0.
 

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