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The discussion revolves around a modified double slit experiment where the distances from a light source to two slits differ. Participants explore the implications of this setup on interference patterns and seek references to the experiment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant recalls a modified double slit experiment demonstrating interference despite unequal distances from the source to the slits, suggesting that equal distances may be an artifact.
  • Another participant compares the modified experiment to a water-based two-slit experiment, noting differences in wave spread and intersection points affecting the interference pattern.
  • A participant clarifies that the experiment involved using fiber optic cables to delay the arrival of photons at one slit, while both slits remained equidistant from the source.
  • One participant questions the necessity of using fiber optics for phase shifting, suggesting that simpler methods could achieve similar results without introducing coherence issues.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the goal was to observe interference despite the timing differences of the photon wave, challenging the notion that simultaneous arrival at both slits is required for interference.
  • There is a discussion about whether a pulse of light could interfere with itself if parts of it arrive at different times, which would justify the use of long fiber optics in the experiment.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of "conditional interference" involving entangled photons and provides links to related literature.

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Participants express differing views on the implications and methods of the modified double slit experiment. There is no consensus on the existence of the specific experiment mentioned or its significance.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various aspects of the experiment, including potential coherence issues with fiber optics and the nature of interference, but do not resolve the underlying assumptions or details of the original experiment.

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I once read about a modified double slit experiment where the distance between one slit and the source was different to distance between the other slit and the source. It gave the usual interference result, and showed the common feature of other double slit experiments, equal distances to both slits from the source, was an artifact.

But I can't find any reference to this experiment now. Anyone got any links?
 
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You make a good point, and it just goes to show how closely a 'water two-slit experiment' actually resembles a particle based one in interference pattern results. It gave the usual interference effect but yet the actual pattern is different because the point at which the waves intersect will be further out and the waves from say A will be more spread out than the waves from B when they intersect at a point C therefore different than the normal setup where the waves are almost identical in spread when they intersect at a common point C.
 
tdunc said:
the point at which the waves intersect will be further out

not nessacerally. I didn't quite get my wording exact in my first post.

I say...
where the distance between one slit and the source
Exactly, I meant...

where the distance the photons travel from the source

The experiment I read about used fibre optic cables to take the photons destined for one slit round the block a few times before inserting them though the slit.
The slits themselves were the same distance from the source and the destination.

Still can't find a documentation on the experiement. Hope I didn't imagine it.
 
So, essentially what you are saying is that one source (slit = source for interference purposes) is phase shifted relative to the other? If so, why would this group take an optic fibre around the block, when a quartz plate would suffice to give the phase shift (Coupled with the fact that using such a long piece of fibre would introduce coherence issues)?

This result is well known, all it does is shift the cos^2 pattern in the plane of the screen.

I doubt this group could have published a paper on this result alone (unless the paper is very old). If this paper was indeed published, they must have done something else to warrant publication.

Claude.
 
No. Phase shift was not their goal.
They wanted to see if a photon-wave would interfere with itself, even though part of it was not in the right place at the right time. i.e. the the part of the wave traveling through the cable would arrive at it's slit much later than the other, but even so, typical interference occurred.
The result was showing that getting the wave to hit both slits at the same time wasn't nessacery for interference.
 
So you are saying that a pulse of light was sent and one half of the pulse passed through the slit after the other half, and interference still occurred?

That would explain the long length of fibre if that is the case.

Claude.
 
yep. Ain't that a cool experiment and result? I wish I could find it again just so I can be sure it exists.
 
It sounds like such a simple experiment too.

Claude.
 
Hello meemoe_uk,

I think you are talking about "conditional interference", where you have an entangled pair of photons, each photon is incident on a Young double slit.

http://www.loqnl.ufal.br/publications/2000/PRA61023801-1(2000).pdf
http://www.sbf1.if.usp.br/eventos/enfmc/xxii/programa/res0771.ps
 
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