Isolated charged conducting sphere problem

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The problem involves an isolated charged conducting sphere with a specified radius and electric field strength at a certain distance from its center. Participants are tasked with finding the capacitance and charge density of the sphere.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using Gauss' Law to relate the electric field to charge, with some suggesting simplifications to treat the sphere as a point charge. There are inquiries about the formula for capacitance and the surface area needed for charge density calculations. Some participants express confusion about their calculations and the expected results.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on using Gauss' Law and the relationship between charge and electric field. There is a recognition of the complexity of calculating capacitance and charge density, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct method or solution.

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Participants mention discrepancies between their calculations and textbook answers, indicating potential misunderstandings of the formulas or assumptions involved. There is also a note that some participants are more familiar with parallel plate capacitance, which may affect their approach to this problem.

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Hi, i appreciate your help.

The problem reads
an isolated charged conducting sphere with radius 12cm creates an electrical fiels of 4.90^4 21cm away from the center. find the capacitance and charge density?

I used the formula
C= (a*b)/(Ke*(b-a))
but i get the wrong answer what am i doing wrong?
 
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If the E Field is 4.9x10^4 21cm away, simplify the charged sphere to a point charge, and calculate Q if you know E using Gauss' Law.

[tex]\int{E}{dA} = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0}[/tex] which simplifies to [tex]EA = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]

Charge Density = Q / A
Whats the surface area of the sphere?

I only know how to do parallel plate capacitances.
 
abot said:
Hi, i appreciate your help.

The problem reads
an isolated charged conducting sphere with radius 12cm creates an electrical fiels of 4.90^4 21cm away from the center. find the capacitance and charge density?

I used the formula
C= (a*b)/(Ke*(b-a))
but i get the wrong answer what am i doing wrong?
The field at 21 cm radius gives you the charge:

[tex]\int E\cdot dA = 4\pi r^2E = \frac{q}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]

[tex]q = 4\pi r^2E\epsilon_0[/tex]

Charge density on surface is just q/A.

It may seem surprising but a charged sphere has capacitance. You can pump more charge onto the sphere and build up the voltage on the sphere (relative to ground). This is essentially how the Vandegraff generator works.

Capacitance is defined as:

[tex]C = q/V = q/\int_R^\infty E dr[/tex]

From Coulomb's law:
[tex]E = \frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0r^2}[/tex]

So from that you can work out the expression for C.

AM
 
Andrew Mason, above you say what capacitance is defined as and also tell me coulombs law. after i solve for c, capacitance i get
C= (ab)/(k(a-b))
where a and b are the radius
then when i plug the numbers in, i don't get the right answer. the book gets 13.3pF.
what am i doing wrong?
THANKS
 
[tex]C = \frac{q}{V} = \frac{q}{\int_R^\infty E dr} = \frac{q}{\int_R^\infty{\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_0r^2}}{dr}} = \frac{q}{\frac{-q}{4\pi\epsilon_0R}} = -4\pi\epsilon_0R[/tex]

You know all the variables. Now find the capacitance.
 
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