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What properties do radioactive substances have that actually cause harm to organisms? I've really no idea at all...
Thanks a lot,
Jacob
Thanks a lot,
Jacob
The discussion revolves around the harmful properties of radioactive substances and their effects on biological organisms. Participants explore the mechanisms of ionization, types of radiation, and potential cellular damage, including cancer risk. The conversation includes theoretical explanations and anecdotal evidence related to exposure to radioactive materials.
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So by touching a radioactive substance, the atoms that make up my body essentially would ionize and scatter electrons all into my body? What causes that to happen?chroot said:They cause ionization, kicking electrons out of atoms. The end result is that this ionization causes unwanted chemical reactions in the cell. The worst kind are those that damage DNA, prompting an increase in cancer risk.
- Warren
chroot said:There are several kinds of radiation: alpha, beta, and gamma.
vanesch said:Let's also add a few others:
*) a most nasty form of radiation is fast neutrons: they are very damaging because they mainly interact with nucleae and have high penetrating power ; so they do not ionise so much, as that they knock away nucleae out of the molecule. Talk about irreversible damage :-)
*) cosmic radiation. At ground level, they mostly consist of energetic muons (which are a bit like heavy electrons) and fast neutrons. In outer space, or high altitudes, charged hadrons (fast protons, pions...) are also present: these are very damaging dudes, because they both ionise and knock off nucleae. But they rarely get down to sea level because they interact in the atmosphere (producing pions which then decay into muons, and neutrons).
*) piramid radiation: extremely damaging: it causes irremediable damage to the mind ;-)
cheers,
Patrick.
chroot said:There are several kinds of radiation: alpha, beta, and gamma.
Alpha radiation is composed of helium nuclei; these are not very penetrating, cannot pass skin, and generally cause no harm unless the substances are inhaled or ingested.
Beta radiation are energetic electrons. These can penetrate a short distance through skin, so are dangerous even at a distance. The electrons collide with atoms in your body and knock other electrons from the atoms to which they "belong."
The third kind of radiation, gamma, is composed of high energy photons -- like more aggressive X-rays. These photons can penetrate your entire body, and can knock electrons off anywhere.
The radioactive substances undergo nuclear reactions which produce the alpha, beta, or gamma radiation; this radiation then ionizes atoms in your body, causing cellular damage.
- Warren
PatPwnt said:So, since beta radiation is just electrons, what is the difference between them and a bolt of lightning? Could I get cancer from a bolt of lightning?
PatPwnt said:So, since beta radiation is just electrons, what is the difference between them and a bolt of lightning? Could I get cancer from a bolt of lightning?
Astronuc said:The site states electrical potentials in the millions of volts, but I believe that is too high. However, the electrons are not accelerated into the MeV range, due to the breakdown of the air molecules.
PatPwnt said:So, since beta radiation is just electrons, what is the difference between them and a bolt of lightning? Could I get cancer from a bolt of lightning?