Animal Abuse: Is Tastier or Medicinal Meat the Motive?

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The discussion revolves around the topic of animal abuse, particularly focusing on the practices of skinning animals alive and the motivations behind such actions, including beliefs about the taste and medicinal properties of the meat. Participants express their emotional reactions to witnessing animal cruelty and explore the implications of these practices in various cultural contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the rationale behind skinning animals alive, suggesting it may be linked to beliefs about the meat being tastier or having medicinal properties.
  • Concerns are raised about the emotional impact of witnessing animal abuse, with participants expressing feelings of disgust and frustration.
  • One participant argues that stress hormones released during torture negatively affect the taste of meat, citing examples from reindeer slaughter practices in Scandinavia.
  • Another participant challenges the idea that fur falls out immediately upon killing, suggesting that hair loss is not instantaneous and may vary by animal.
  • There are claims that reputable fur producers prioritize the comfort of animals to ensure high-quality pelts, contrasting with the practices of animal torture.
  • Some participants express a strong ethical stance against animal torture, advocating for reporting such practices regardless of cultural justifications.
  • References are made to specific cultural practices in the Far East regarding the consumption of certain animals, with implications that some believe it enhances sexual performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the motivations behind animal abuse, with no consensus on the beliefs regarding the taste or medicinal value of the meat. There is general agreement on the unacceptability of animal torture, but differing opinions on the biological implications and cultural practices remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the emotional difficulty of encountering graphic content related to animal abuse, and there are references to the sensationalism in media reporting. The discussion includes varying levels of biological understanding regarding animal physiology and the effects of stress on meat quality.

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While surfing web I have stumbled on a few video clips showing animal abuse, one was showing racoon type animal being skinned alive ,and the other was about snakes skinned alive too.
My question is: do those people think that meat of this animal is more tasty and "medicinal"? WTF ?? :frown:
 
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Well,that's a weird towards abnormal behavior by you.What were you doing "stumbling" on such stuff...?:wink:

Daniel.
 
viewing photos of abuse either human or animal ..just makes me sick.
 
Hypatia,then why do you do it?

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
Hypatia,then why do you do it?

Daniel.


Touché.

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I don't, but its hard to avoid. Your watching movie on TV when BAM...child {view of child wraped in blanket not moving}is burned by father...updates at 10 o'colck.
Animal planet..my favorit show Thats my Baby...cute newborn babies...BLAM...Puppy used as bait for pit bull{shows puppy ripped to shreds}...watch animal ER tonight!
 
stoned said:
While surfing web I have stumbled on a few video clips showing animal abuse, one was showing racoon type animal being skinned alive ,and the other was about snakes skinned alive too.
My question is: do those people think that meat of this animal is more tasty and "medicinal"? WTF ?? :frown:
I've been trying to figure out why they skin the animals alive for their fur and so far all I have found is that apearantly when you kill a dog it's fur immediately begins to fall out so they skin it alive so that the pelt will retain the fur. I'm not sure if the same goes for other animals or not though.
 
hypatia said:
I don't, but its hard to avoid. Your watching movie on TV when BAM...child {view of child wraped in blanket not moving}is burned by father...updates at 10 o'colck.
Animal planet..my favorit show Thats my Baby...cute newborn babies...BLAM...Puppy used as bait for pit bull{shows puppy ripped to shreds}...watch animal ER tonight!

You know,there are a lotta sick,i mean really sick people,out there,but that still doesn't justify unability of avoiding...I mean on the internet,u'd have no excuse;as for the damn journalists which seek the sensational,mayble they all should get captured in Irak and beaheaded before a digital webcamera...That would be really sensational.

Daniel.
 
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I wont, thank you
 
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can't open that link,show me what you got there,i'm ready man !
 
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TheStatutoryApe said:
apearantly when you kill a dog it's fur immediately begins to fall out so they skin it alive so that the pelt will retain the fur. I'm not sure if the same goes for other animals or not though.
I find this hard to believe, although I am no biologist.
If you don't kill the dog before the pelt is removed, the pelt and the dog dies anyway. There's nothing you can do to keep a dead pelt from shedding hair, AFAIK.

And for people who think the meat tastes better when the animal is tortured, they couldn't be more wrong, as when the animal is tortured, stress hormones is released into the blood, which, quite frankly, make the meat taste like stale urine.

Reindeer meat is common in the north of Scandinavia, and when the natives slaughter animals for personal use, they make sure the animals are in no stress or pain, so they do the slaughtering in the wild. Only problem is that the health department won't allow it commercially, so they have to send the reindeer in trucks to slaughter houses, and the reindeer are stressed in the process, which makes it taste bad. Luckily my mother has contacts, so she can get the good meat. And by the way, it is probably healthier to slaughter the animals in the wild than to bring them to a place with potentially rotten gunk lying around.

Anyway, I guess the sick people who are into animal torturing are making up all kinds of lame excuses for what they're doing. I say put them in cages, no matter how 'cultural' it is. Ethics should go before tradition. Period.
 
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen to any animal including a dog.
Maybe if you left it for a couple of days or so, but it definitely wouldn't be instantaneous.
There are a lot of dogs that continuously shed hair though.
 
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gschjetne said:
I find this hard to believe, although I am no biologist.
If you don't kill the dog before the pelt is removed, the pelt and the dog dies anyway. There's nothing you can do to keep a dead pelt from shedding hair, AFAIK.

And for people who think the meat tastes better when the animal is tortured, they couldn't be more wrong, as when the animal is tortured, stress hormones is released into the blood, which, quite frankly, make the meat taste like stale urine.

I have to agree with you on this. If an animal lives under stress or illness, their fur is usually the first to show it (long periods of elevated stress hormones lead to hair loss...sorry guys, not the male pattern baldness variety). People who raise animals for their fur, if they are reputable, know they get the best quality pelts by keeping the animals very comfortable and unstressed.

Even if you could get a better pelt skinning an animal alive, it is still torture and is unacceptable. If you see sites showing such torture, you should report them.
 
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gschjetne said:
And for people who think the meat tastes better when the animal is tortured, they couldn't be more wrong, as when the animal is tortured, stress hormones is released into the blood, which, quite frankly, make the meat taste like stale urine.


apparently some animals are being skinned alive for food( snakes etc.) in far east,those people must like this taste and some even believe it helps men sexually.
 

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