Does This Thing Really Do Much?

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness and safety of a specific type of air purifier, particularly the Ionic Breeze model. Participants share personal experiences, technical insights, and concerns regarding odor removal, air quality, and ozone production. The scope includes practical applications, user experiences, and some technical explanations related to air purification technology.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants share personal experiences with the air purifier, claiming it works well for odor removal, particularly in smoking environments.
  • One participant describes the operational mechanism of the device, mentioning the role of static electricity and ozone in removing odors.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of filtration efficiency data for the device, leading to skepticism about its effectiveness.
  • Another participant estimates the amount of tar and dust collected by the device over time, suggesting it does remove some pollutants.
  • There are discussions about the price range of the units, with varying estimates provided by participants.
  • A participant references a Consumer Reports article that critiques the air purifier's performance and highlights potential health risks associated with ozone emissions.
  • Some participants express caution about purchasing the device based on the reported issues with ozone and effectiveness.
  • One participant mentions having the option to turn off the UV lamp to control ozone production, indicating a level of user control over the device's operation.
  • Another participant argues that while Ionic Breeze purifiers are not revolutionary, they offer advantages such as silent operation and no additional costs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness and safety of the air purifier. There are multiple competing views regarding its performance, health implications, and user experiences.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the absence of specific data on filtration efficiency and the potential health risks associated with ozone production, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Does anyone have this thing? does it really do much? Does it... *prays*... get rid of annoying smells rather quickly *stares at bathroom after sooooome people use it...*. My calculus teacher in high school had like 3 in his room... crazy guy i tell you what.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Does anyone have this thing? does it really do much? Does it... *prays*... get rid of annoying smells rather quickly *stares at bathroom after sooooome people use it...*. My calculus teacher in high school had like 3 in his room... crazy guy i tell you what.

I have one of these things and it works well. Since I was 4yrs old I’ve taken things apart to see what makes them tick. This was no exception. The gist of operation is a pair of wires that have a static electric charge. This ionizes ((+) charge) the nearby dust particles, and molecules in general. Just in front of the wires are 4 thin metal plates that carry a (-) high voltage charge. The dust particles and air molecules are accelerated towards the plates where the dust particles adhere to the plates while the air moves through, the breezy part of the name. If the dust particles are aromatic, the odor they carry is removed. The main method of removing odors is due to the device having a UV lamp that produces Ozone. This highly reactive gas can destroy the aromatic molecules that cause odor. A chemist would better answer the how of that. I guess there is some risk associated with the Ozone gas but probably not at the quantity the device produces.
 
GENIERE said:
I have one of these things and it works well.

That surprises me. When I looked into these things, the filtration efficiency, i.e % removed as a function of particle size and volumetric flow, was never available as it is for standard HVAC systems and air cleaners. This made me very suspicious. Do you know how much area is effectively treated by one unit of a given size [watts or $]?
 
I probably should have said it seems to work well. The device is in a 15 x 15-foot room where we the TV set is. My wife and I both smoke. Our home is very tightly constructed and the room is almost unbearable if we’re both puffing away. That makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it? Anyhow I would estimate the device collects about an ounce or two of a tar/dust really foul stuff that sticks to the plates over a 2-day period. It shuts down and starts beeping indicating it’s time to clean it. Wonder what my lungs look like? They seem to be radio-opaque.

We'll have the 9 grandkids with us for the week, next week, so it's to the garage for puffing we go.
 
GENIERE said:
I probably should have said it seems to work well. The device is in a 15 x 15-foot room where we the TV set is. My wife and I both smoke. Our home is very tightly constructed and the room is almost unbearable if we’re both puffing away. That makes a lot of sense, doesn’t it? Anyhow I would estimate the device collects about an ounce or two of a tar/dust really foul stuff that sticks to the plates over a 2-day period. It shuts down and starts beeping indicating it’s time to clean it. Wonder what my lungs look like? They seem to be radio-opaque.

We'll have the 9 grandkids with us for the week, next week, so it's to the garage for puffing we go.

Are you using a unit that sells for about $250?
 
Can't recall, but definitely over $200.00.
 
Isnt their main unit like $400?
 
This just came out. It may be worth a read:

SAN FRANCISCO - Consumer Reports magazine is taking renewed aim at a popular air purifier made by The Sharper Image two months after it fended off a libel lawsuit filed by the machine's retailer.

The magazine reports in its latest issue hitting newsstands Tuesday that Sharper Image's Ionic Breeze Quadra Silent Air Purifier and four other similar machines fail to significantly clean the air — but also release potentially unhealthy levels of ozone.

I saw the article here:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=509&e=2&u=/ap/20050405/ap_on_bi_ge/sharper_image
 
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Yah i just saw that yesterday... think ill hold off on that purchase for now :D
 
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FredGarvin said:
This just came out. It may be worth a read:

I saw the article here:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=509&e=2&u=/ap/20050405/ap_on_bi_ge/sharper_image

Before I got the device, mine’s the Ionic Tower brand, I was aware of the possible harmful effects of Ozone. My device has the option of turning off the UV lamp so Ozone is only generated when you want. There are many good reasons for using Ozone in the home, but one does need to be careful. I will soon convert my well water sterilization to an Ozone system and remove the existing Chlorine injection system. I think, not sure, Ozone is commonly used in large, publicly acessed buildings to maintain air "purity". If Russ watters is viewing this thread, he may shed some light on the matter.
 
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The Ionic Breeze Air Purifiers are not revolutionary in performance compared to Classic Air Purifiers and they are not very cheap. But I believe that they represent a progress. The advantages of using them instead of classic ones are the fact that they are completely silent and they have no additional costs.
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