Calculating Total Mass of Nitrogen in Atmosphere

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total mass of nitrogen in the atmosphere, focusing on the percentage of nitrogen by volume and its conversion to mass. Participants are exploring the relationships between atmospheric mass, volume, and the properties of nitrogen gas under standard conditions.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the mass of nitrogen using the ideal gas law and the partial pressure of nitrogen, but expresses uncertainty about their calculations. Other participants suggest using density values for air and nitrogen to find massic concentration and relate it to the total atmospheric mass.

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Participants are actively sharing methods and calculations, with some providing guidance on using density and massic concentration. There is a recognition of discrepancies in the calculations, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final answer.

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There is mention of standard temperature and pressure (STP) conditions, and participants are working with specific density values for air and nitrogen. The original poster has calculated the mass of the atmosphere but is struggling to reconcile their results with expected values.

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Hi. Can someone give me a hint to how to calculate total mass of nitrogen in the atmosphere. I've calculated the mass of all the atmosphere, I got the percent by volume of nitrogen to be 78.03 %. I converted the mass of the atmosphere to Liters. I got the volume of nitrogen to be 3.18e21 L and converted to 3,099 e18 kg. The correct answear is 3,96e18 kg can't see what I doing wrong. To get the Kg of nitrogen I used the partial pressure of N2 in O°C and the gas equation to get the moles of N2. Maybe I'm getting the partial pressure wrong. I did 78.03/100 = 0,7803*1 atm
 
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I'm not completely sure, but I'd suggest using the old [itex]PV=nRT[/itex], using the volume of the atmosphere, along with the average partial pressure of Nitrogen.
 
U need the density of air and the density of gaseous nitrogen under normal conditions of pressure & temperature.

100l air------------------------x Kg air
100 l air----------------------78.03 l N_{2}
78.03 l N_{2}----------------- y Kg N_{2}

Therefore the massic concentration of N_{2} is y/x...

Multiply the massic concentration with the mass of the atmosphere & u'll find the mass of N_{2}

Daniel.
 
Thanks Daniel. I did what you told me, if I got it right I still didn't get the right answear. Calculated the density of air and N2 in STP multiplied by 100 and 78.03 respectively. the difference was about 0.5 something. multiplied with the mass of air whis is 5,266e18 Kg. Should get 3,96e18 Kg got 3,01e18 Kg
 
The density of air under normal conditions of pressure & temp.is

[tex]\rho_{air}^{STP}\simeq \frac{28.89}{22.41} Kg \ m^{-3}[/tex]

The density of nitrogen under normal conditions of temp & pressure is

[tex]\rho_{N_{2}}^{STP} \simeq \frac{28}{22.41} Kg \ m^{-3}[/tex]

So 22.41 l of air contain [itex]28.89 \cdot 10^{-3} \ Kg[/itex] of air.Now,22.41 l of air contain 78.03% N_{2} which means exactly

[tex]\frac{22.41\cdot 78.03}{100} \ l _{N_{2}}[/tex]

The mass of N_{2} in 22.41 l air is

[tex]mass_{N_{2}}=\frac{22.41\cdot 10^{-3} m^{-3} \cdot 78.03}{100}\cdot \frac{28}{22.41}Kg \ m^{-3}=\frac{28 \cdot 78.03 \cdot 10^{-3}}{100} \ Kg[/tex]

The massic concentration is

[tex]n_{massic}^{N_{2}}=\frac{28\cdot 78.03 \ 10^{-3} \ Kg}{100} \frac{1}{28.89 \cdot 10^{-3} \ Kg} =\frac{78.03}{100}\cdot \frac{28}{28.89}[/tex]

Then the mass of N_{2} in the atmosphere under normal cond-s of temp & press. is

[tex]m_{N_{2}}^{atmosphere,STP} =m_{atmosphere} \cdot \frac{78.03}{100}\cdot\frac{28}{28.89}[/tex]

Daniel.
 
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It works. Thanks a lot
 

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