Physics Behind Cushions and Flight Time Direction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around two physics-related questions: the mechanics of how cushions contribute to comfort and whether flight time differs based on the direction of travel relative to the Earth's rotation. The scope includes conceptual understanding and exploratory reasoning regarding comfort in seating and the effects of Earth's rotation on aviation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that cushions distribute weight more evenly, enhancing comfort.
  • Others argue that the material and softness of the cushion significantly affect comfort levels, with different cushions providing varying experiences despite similar weight distribution.
  • One participant notes that air trapped within the cushion contributes to its softness and comfort.
  • Regarding flight time, one participant suggests that, in the absence of wind, there would be no difference in flight duration when flying east versus west due to the air rotating with the Earth.
  • Another participant mentions that winds can influence flight times, potentially assisting or hindering planes based on their direction of travel.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of space launches benefiting from the Earth's rotational speed when launched eastward from near the equator, which is a different context from typical flight discussions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the role of cushions in distributing weight for comfort, but there is no consensus on which materials or designs are inherently more comfortable. The discussion on flight time remains unresolved, with differing views on the impact of Earth's rotation and wind conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about comfort and the mechanics of cushions, as well as the influence of environmental factors on flight duration, indicating a need for further exploration of these topics.

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Tell me why...

I have two simple physics questions that i can't figure out myself.
1. How does cushion make a seat feel more comfortable?
2. If a plane flies over a considerable distance, will there be a noticable flight time duration difference if it flies over the same distance from west to east direction against from east to west direction? I myself think that there will be a time difference since the Earth rotates from west to east.
 
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orlandu said:
I have two simple physics questions that i can't figure out myself.
1. How does cushion make a seat feel more comfortable?
It helps spread the force due to your weight more evenly over your butt.
2. If a plane flies over a considerable distance, will there be a noticable flight time duration difference if it flies over the same distance from west to east direction against from east to west direction? I myself think that there will be a time difference since the Earth rotates from west to east.
To a first approximation, the air on Earth rotates with the same velocity as the ground. Since the airplane maintains airspeed, in the absence of wind, there would be no difference in elapsed flight time in flying east versus flying west.

Of course, the Earth really does have winds; an eastward wind would assist a plane when flying eastward, but hinder a plane when flying westward. A westward wind would have the opposite effect.

- Warren
 
Thanks a lot for the reply. I get it now
 
orlandu said:
Thanks a lot for the reply. I get it now
There is one instance in which direction makes a difference, but it doesn't involve airspeed. Most space launches are conducted from as close to the equator as possible, in the direction of the Earth's rotation, because the large diameter there gives the highest rotational speed. This gives the rocket an assist toward reaching orbital or escape velocity, but it's relative to the space around the Earth, not another point on the Earth.
 
Funny that this is in Physics, But a cushion helps because it contains trapped layers of air between the fibers. the more air, the softer the seat.
 
hypatia,

Regardless of the mechanism by which it is accomplished, the purpose of a cushion is to even out force.

- Warren
 
How does cushion make a seat feel more comfortable?



But only a soft cushion makes it comfortable, I took his question to be one of comfort. I have 2 chairs in my office, both will displace my weight evenly, yet only one is comfortable.
 
hypatia said:
How does cushion make a seat feel more comfortable?



But only a soft cushion makes it comfortable, I took his question to be one of comfort. I have 2 chairs in my office, both will displace my weight evenly, yet only one is comfortable.

How do the two displace your weight evenly? They must do so by different means. Can you elaborate?

I suspect one is molded but hard, while the other is cushioned. The cushioned seat will dynamically mold to distribute the weight evenly, no matter how you reposition yourself. A hard seat is only a factory-designed guess at what your butt is shaped like*.

However, if an exact mold of your butt was taken, it would be every bit as comfortable as the softest air-cushioned pillow - as long as you were motionless.

The pillowed seat isn't intrinsically more comfortable, it's just more adaptable at suiting your position.



*As this is a scientific discussion - we should deal with facts. In the interest of science, please send pictures of your butt. :smile:
 
lmao... :smile:

One is 1960's high tech{ultra modern} faux pleather with cotton batting filler. Looks really cool, but uncomfortable.
The other one is 1990's closed cell foam under a layer of open cell foam with tweed like material incaseing it all. We are talking butt heaven here.
 

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