Tracking the Ball's Motion After a Throw at Ground Level

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a ball thrown from ground level, specifically analyzing its trajectory and calculating various components of its initial velocity and height at the peak of its path. The problem involves kinematics and energy principles.

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  • Participants explore different methods to calculate the initial velocity components and the maximum height of the ball, including energy conservation and kinematic equations.

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Some participants suggest using energy conservation principles to find the height, while others question the applicability of this approach given the nature of the motion. There is a discussion about using vertical components of velocity and the relevance of initial conditions from previous parts of the problem.

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Participants note that the problem is constrained by the requirement to use specific equations and the information provided in earlier parts of the question. There is also a mention of the need to clarify which components of velocity can be used in calculations.

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A ball is thrown into the air from ground level. After a time t = 1 s, the ball has traveled to a position x1 = 28 m to the right of and y1 = 13 m up from where it was thrown (at this time, the x and y components of the ball's velocity are still positive). The axes show the x and y directions to be considered positive.



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a) What was the x component of the initial velocity of the ball?
v0x = m/s *


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b) What was the y component of the initial velocity of the ball?
v0y = m/s *
15.97 NO

HELP: Look in your book for an equation.
HELP: You need an equation relating initial velocity, the change in position, acceleration, and time.


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c) What was the initial speed of the throw?
v0 = m/s *

HELP: Use the answers from parts (a) and (b).


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d) What was the initial angle of the throw relative to the horizontal? Please enter your answer in degrees.
q0 = ° *


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e) What is the height of the ball at the top of its path?
h = m
8.1 NO

I need help with part e, that's it

Thanks,
 
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Naeem said:
A ball is thrown into the air from ground level. After a time t = 1 s, the ball has traveled to a position x1 = 28 m to the right of and y1 = 13 m up from where it was thrown (at this time, the x and y components of the ball's velocity are still positive). The axes show the x and y directions to be considered positive.

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e) What is the height of the ball at the top of its path?
h = m
8.1 NO

I need help with part e, that's it
Use energy. What is the energy of the ball when thrown? When that energy is all converted into potential energy, what will its height be?

AM
 
Not sure if using energy will work as at the top of the parabolic path horizontal component velocity would be the same as at the point of being launched so not all amount of energy at the start would be converted to P.E or am I wrong?

Try using this equation,

v^2 = u^2 + 2as

where u is vertical component velocity at launch, v is final vertical velocity, a is g and s distance traveled in the y axis.
 
Well, I did this:

v - final velocity = 0

a = -g = - 9.81 m/s^2

so, -u^2/-2g

Can we use 'u' from part c.

do you think this would work.
 
Naeem said:
Well, I did this:

v - final velocity = 0

a = -g = - 9.81 m/s^2

so, -u^2/-2g

Can we use 'u' from part c.

do you think this would work.
As Al pointed out, you can only use vertical velocity or its vertical kinetic energy. Its maximum height is given by:

(1) [tex]mgh = \frac{1}{2}mv_{0y}^2[/tex]

You can also use:

(2) [tex]y = v_{y0}t - \frac{1}{2}gt^2[/tex] and

(3) [tex]v_{y} = v_{y0} - gt[/tex]

and find t when v_y = 0 (ie. [itex]t = v_{y0} /g[/itex]. Substituting that value for t into (2) gives you maximum y. But you can see that it works out to the same as h in (1).

AM
 
Hi,

You could use Andrew's method or if you'd prefer to use back the equation I wrote earlier, the u, has to be the vertical component of the initial velocity. i.e, you cannot use from (c). Use answer from (b), the y component velocity.
 

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