Sum to Infinity: Solving the Limit of a Series

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The problem involves finding the sum to infinity of a series represented as \(\frac{x}{1*2} + \frac{x^2}{2*3} + \frac{x^3}{3*4} + \ldots\). Participants are exploring the limit of the series and discussing the implications of the domain of \(x\) on convergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the importance of defining the domain of \(x\) for evaluating the limit and convergence of the series. There are attempts to relate the series to known power series and differentiation techniques. Some participants express confusion about the necessity of differentiation and how it relates to finding the sum.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being suggested, including differentiation and integration of series. Some participants are questioning the steps taken and expressing confusion about the concepts involved, while others are providing insights into the relationship between the original series and its differentiated form.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original problem was not covered in their coursework, leading to varying levels of understanding regarding series and convergence. There is acknowledgment of restrictions on \(x\) based on the behavior of the series.

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Hello!

Here is the problem I am attempting:

Sum to infinity:

[tex]\frac{x}{1*2} + \frac{x^2}{2*3} + \frac{x^3}{3*4} + ...[/tex]

Here is what I get:

[tex]S = \frac{x^n}{(n)(n+1)}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{x^n}{(n)(n+1)}}[/tex]

Now what? Should I do partial fractions to split the equation?
 
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No,you should say the domain of "x"...You're interested in getting the value of the limit,right...?

Daniel.
 
I am trying to find the sum to infinity. Why should I do the domain of x?
 
Because it involved a limit for which telling in which domain "x" takes values is ESSENTIAL...

Daniel.
 
I was not given any range of domain? Do I make up one. Essentially it can be anything...its in the numerator..
 
It counts.If it's in [itex]\left[0,1\right][/itex],the limit is 0.If it's in [itex]\left(1,+\infty\right)[/itex],then the limit is [itex]+\infty[/itex]...

The tricky part is when "x" can be negative.

Daniel.
 
So if I take sum from negative infinity to positive infinity, all the places where x is raised to an odd power will get canceled out. So only those which are left would be the one with the even power...which I take the sum of. However, how do I get the sum of the even power? i.e. how do I start this problem?
 
I was thinking one thing:

The power series is as such:

[tex]e^x = \frac{x^n}{n!}[/tex]

Could I use this? All that's different about what I am doing is that there is also (n+1)! in the denominator.

So would I just do:

[tex]e^x * \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{1}{(n+1)!}[/tex]
 
That would not help here. And you do not have factorials in your original S.

Also, I hope you know that what you have labeled S is just the nth term of the serie. This is different from the nth partial sum. Evaluating the limit you have written will not give you the sum of the limit. All you can conclude from this limit is the range of points x where it does not converge (when lim does not equal 0), and the one where it MAY converge (when lim = 0).
 
  • #11
But limit is only equal to 0 when x = 0...

Could someone kindly guide me in the right direction...I am really confused
 
  • #12
Here's the result.

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{x^k}{k(k+1)}=\allowbreak \frac {1}{2}x\left( 2\frac{1-x}x-\frac {2}{x^2}\left[ \ln \left( 1-x\right) \right] \left( x-1\right) -\frac {1}{x-1}\left( -2x+2\right) \right)[/tex]

I don't know how Maple did it,though...

Daniel.
 
  • #13
I think you should differentiate your series.
 
  • #14
If u do what Hurkyl said,u'll bump into this series

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{x^{k-1}}{k+1}\allowbreak \allowbreak =\allowbreak \frac 1{x-1}\frac{1-x}x-\frac 1{x^2}\ln \left( 1-x\right)[/tex]

Daniel.

P.S.I think you'll find useful the Taylor series for [itex]\ln (1-x)[/itex] around 0.
 
  • #15
Why must one diffrentiate to this? I thought I was looking for the sum. Doesn't this do different all together?
 
  • #16
Nope,the result of the differentiation will be another series which can be computed more easily...

Daniel.
 
  • #17
What does this series have to do with anything:

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{x^{k-1}}{k+1}\allowbreak \allowbreak =\allowbreak \frac 1{x-1}\frac{1-x}x-\frac 1{x^2}\ln \left( 1-x\right)[/tex]

at least this one has the correct left hand side:

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{x^k}{k(k+1)}=\allowbreak \frac {1}{2}x\left( 2\frac{1-x}x-\frac {2}{x^2}\left[ \ln \left( 1-x\right) \right] \left( x-1\right) -\frac {1}{x-1}\left( -2x+2\right) \right)[/tex]

But how is any of this to be evaluated?
 
  • #18
Differentiate the general term [itex]\frac{x^{k}}{k(k+1)}[/itex] wrt "x" and the u'll get the general term for the first series...

Daniel.
 
  • #19
Perhaps I should explain first that our professor did not cover a lot of this stuff, I am an ECON major, and have been fiddling through a book which does not cover series. (Everything I know is through research online. And none of it makes sense.)
 
  • #20
dextercioby said:
Differentiate the general term [itex]\frac{x^{k}}{k(k+1)}[/itex] wrt "x" and the u'll get the general term for the first series...

Daniel.

Oh alright that makes sense then. :rolleyes:


[tex]\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{x^{k-1}}{k+1}\allowbreak \allowbreak =\allowbreak \frac 1{x-1}\frac{1-x}x-\frac 1{x^2}\ln \left( 1-x\right)[/tex]

Now if I plug in one, I get a lot of illegal values, i.e. 0 in denominator and ln(0)...so I diffrentiate again for a better series?
 
  • #21
Sorry then for my persistance.I thought u wouldn't give up.

Daniel.
 
  • #22
No.That is the result.The sum of the series which,obviously depends on "x".That result should tell u however "the illegal values of <<x>>"...That "x" has lots of restrictions.

You should integrate now to get the original series.

Daniel.
 
  • #23
No, no, I really appreciate your persistance. But could you just explain it a little bit to me? You have to understand I know very little about series-- only that I am suppose to add numbers. The first example I did, my friend did it with limits, so I thought that ALL could be done with limits. Now there is diffrentiation, which is just not makign sense :( and I feel like I am getting nowhere.
 
  • #24
Series,under certain conditions,especially of convergence,could be differentiated and integrated term by term.That's what it's done here.First u differentiate the original series to get another series which is simpler to evaluate.Then,u have to integrate back to get the original result.It's a very elegant method,but which only works,as i said,only if the series you get at each step are convergent...

Daniel.
 
  • #25
Ooo. I see. But we haven't figured out the diffrentiated thing yet, so we shouldn't go back yet? If we go back and try and solve, we'd be nowhere, no?

Or have we figured it out and I completely missed it? Or do we integrate the simple thing and that'll give an answer? But what's the gurantee the simple thing integrated won't be complicated?
 
  • #26
A common technique in mathematics is to transform a problem into something simpler, that you know how to solve.

In this case, you wanted the sum S(x), but as it turns out, S'(x) was simpler, and you were able to solve it.

Now, all you have to do is to recover what S(x) is, given that you now know what S'(x) is.
 
  • #27
Hello...?
 
  • #28
Make the substitution

[tex]k+1=u[/tex]

in the series

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{x^{k-1}}{x+1}[/tex]

and write the new series in terms of "u".

Daniel.
 

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