Troubleshooting 9V and 1 Ohm Resistor Connection

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a circuit involving a 9V voltage source connected to a 1 ohm resistor and the challenges faced in measuring current with an ammeter. Participants explore various aspects of circuit design, component limitations, and measurement techniques.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially calculated the expected current using Ohm's law but encountered issues when measuring it with an ammeter.
  • Questions were raised about the type of 9V source being used, with suggestions that the source could affect the current measurement.
  • Another participant pointed out that a standard 9V dry cell may not be capable of delivering 9 amperes of current, indicating a potential misunderstanding of component capabilities.
  • Concerns were expressed regarding the power rating of the resistor, with a warning that exceeding its limits could lead to failure.
  • Participants discussed the concept of Equivalent Series Resistance (ESR) of batteries as a factor in determining the maximum current output.
  • Suggestions were made to test the voltage source and to replace the 1 ohm resistor with a higher resistance to measure current safely.
  • A later reply indicated that the circuit began to function correctly, although there was some confusion about the clarity of the participant's expression regarding its operation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants expressed various viewpoints on the issues faced, and while some suggestions led to a resolution for the original poster, there remained uncertainty regarding the specifics of the voltage source and the initial setup.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on the type of voltage source used, potential misunderstandings about component specifications, and the initial incorrect connection of the ammeter.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in basic circuit design, troubleshooting electrical components, and understanding current measurement techniques in experimental setups.

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Hi! I connect 9 volts to a 1 ohm resistor and thought I would get I = U/R = 9 A. But when I connect the ampmeter, I cannot read anything! Where is the problem?
 
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What 9 V voltage source are you using? Is it a dry cell or a lab power source?
How do you connect the ammeter to test the current?
 
You're probably just connecting the ammeter incorrectly. Besides, a 9-volt dry cell will not be able to produce 9 amperes of current.

- Warren
 
A standard resistor is designed to handle anywhere from 0.25W to about 1 watt. Unless you used a power resistor, you've toasted your resistor (at full current, you're trying to make 81 watts !). You can check if the resistor is still any good by using your multimeter in the resistance mode. This would be the mode of failure if you used a DC power supply. If you used a dry cell (9V battery), I'm not sure which you would have destroyed first, the battery or the resistor. Check the open circuit voltage of the battery to see if it's still any good.

Lessons you have learned :

1. Batteries can drive only so much current. You can kill a bettery by shorting it with a low resistance. Look up the specs for the battery to see what it's rated to deliver, before using it under doubtful conditions.

2. Resistors can handle only so much power. Again, make sure you are not going to exceed design constraints before hooking up a circuit.
 
But how can I determ from the battery how many amps it will deliver?
 
BTW, I connect like this. Battery plus -> Resistor -> Ampmeter plus -> Ampmeter minus -> Battery minus
 
danne89 said:
But how can I determ from the battery how many amps it will deliver?
You can look up the Equivalent Series Resistance of the battery. A battery can be considered an ideal voltage source (which could provide an infinite amount of current) in series with a resistor. This series resistor limits the total current the battery can deliver. If you look up the ESR, you can calculate the maximum possible current.

- Warren
 
I also assume you are using a small rectangular 9 volt battery but cannot be sure since you have not said. So what's the story? Is it or isn't it? If not, what is it?
 
Since you did not specify what type of voltage source you are using, we are only guessing that it is Vdc. (It could be a Vac source, where you may also be learning about RMS, peak and peak-to-peak voltages).

Once you have confirmed that your voltage source is still working, (by testing it with your voltmeter and making sure you also select the appropriate Vdc or Vac range depending on your source, here is a new experiment to try;

using the same voltage source, replace you [tex]1\Omega[/tex] resistor with a [tex]500\Omega[/tex] or [tex]100\Omega[/tex] resistor and measure current.

(hint: you might calculate ahead of time what current you expect, so you will know what range to set your ammeter to. If you are still uncertain and you want to protect your ammeter from unexpected currents, start with the largest range and work your way down to smaller ranges. Open your circuit between switching to a new range)
 
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Now it seems to work. Thanks
 
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danne89 said:
Now it seems to work. Thanks
Glad we could steer you in the right direction. Though I don't quite understand what you mean by "seems to work" (My circuits either work or don't work). Do you mean you are fuzzy about how your circuit presently works? :confused:
 
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It's working perfectly. I just expressed myself a little sloppy.
 

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