Mastering Integration: Solving \int_a^b f(x)dx = a+2b with Ease

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The discussion revolves around integration techniques, specifically focusing on the integral of a function and related concepts. Participants explore various integration problems, including the integration of exponential functions and the error function.

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  • Participants discuss the integration of specific functions, question the application of basic integration rules, and explore the implications of using substitutions. There are inquiries about the error function and its relevance in calculus.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications on integration techniques. Some guidance on substitution methods and the nature of certain integrals has been shared, though there is no explicit consensus on all points raised.

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Participants mention varying levels of familiarity with integration techniques, suggesting that some concepts may not be covered until later in academic studies. There is also a reference to the expectation of knowledge regarding special functions in higher education.

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[tex]\int_a^b f(x)dx = a+2b[/tex]
[tex]\int_a^b (f(x)+5)dx =?[/tex]
[tex]\int_a^b (f(x)+5)dx =\int_a^b f(x)dx+\int_a^b 5dx[/tex]
[tex]a+2b+\int_a^b 5dx[/tex]

I'm stuck, what should be my next step?
 
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Are you serious? You can't integrate [tex]\int_a^b5dx[/tex]?

Isn't that the same as [tex]5\int_a^b dx= 5(b-a)[/tex]?

Isn't that about the first thing you learned in integration?
 
hehe, thanks

what's the rule for [tex]\int e^x[/tex]?
is it [tex]e^x \int x[/tex]?
 
Why?It's the exponential.Integration just adds a constant...Don't forget the differential of "x".

Daniel.
 
[tex]\int e^x[/tex] = [tex]\int e^x dx[/tex] ?
 
No,no,the first notation is incorrect.It should always be

[tex]\int \ \mbox{function} \cdot \mbox{element of integration}[/tex]

Daniel.
 
so if a question was [tex]\int e^{\frac{x}{2}} dx = e^{\frac{x}{2}} \int \frac{x}{2} dt[/tex]
 
[tex]\int e^x dx= e^x+ C[/tex]

because [tex]\frac{d e^x}{dx}= e^x[/tex], of course.
 
UrbanXrisis said:
so if a question was [tex]\int e^{\frac{x}{2}} dx = e^{\frac{x}{2}} \int \frac{x}{2} dt[/tex]


No,if course not.U need to make a substitution

[tex]\frac{x}{2}=u[/tex]

Daniel.

EDIT:BTW,knowledge of integration techniques assumed knowledge of differentiation methodes.
 
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[tex]\int e^{\frac{x}{2}} dx[/tex]
[tex]u=x/2[/tex]
[tex]du=1/2dx[/tex]
[tex]\int e^{u} 2du[/tex]
[tex]=2e^{\frac{x}{2}}[/tex]
 
  • #11
UrbanXrisis said:
so if a question was [tex]\int e^{\frac{x}{2}} dx = e^{\frac{x}{2}} \int \frac{x}{2} dt[/tex]


Let u= x/2. Then 2u= x so 2du= dx.
[tex]\int e^{\frac{x}{2}}dx[/tex] becomes [tex]2\int e^u du= 2e^u+ C= 2e^{\frac{x}{2}}+ C[/tex]

Surely you've learned simple substitutions.

[tex]e^x\int \frac{x}{2}dt[/tex], on the other hand, is [tex]e^x(\frac{x^2}{4}+ C)[/tex].
 
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  • #12
That's right up to a constant,which should never be forgotten when computing indefinite integrals.

Daniel.
 
  • #13
is [tex]cos^2(x)=cos(x)cos(x)[/tex]
so..
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}cos^2(x)=-2sin(x)cos(x)[/tex]
 
  • #14
Yeah,why?U could apply the chain rule as well.

Daniel.
 
  • #15
UrbanXrisis said:
is [tex]cos^2(x)=cos(x)cos(x)[/tex]
so..
[tex]\frac{d}{dx}cos^2(x)=-2sin(x)cos(x)[/tex]


Yes, by golly!

(I think we are posting a cross purposes now!)
 
  • #16
so if e is raised to any exponet that is not x, then I must use a subsitution when integrating?
 
  • #17
Yes.Always.Make that depends from case to case.Usually the antiderivatives of exponentials of "weird" arguments are not expressible in terms of "elementary functions".Simples example

[tex]\int e^{-x^{2}} \ dx[/tex]

Daniel.
 
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Just out of curiousity, when I did that particular integral on Mathematica's Online Integrator, I got:

[tex]\int e^{-x^{2}} \ dx = \frac{1}{2}\sqrt{\pi} ERF[x] + C[/tex]

Can someone tell me what Erf is?
 
  • #19
Sure

[tex]\mbox{erf} \ (x)=:\frac{2}{\sqrt{\pi}} \int_{0}^{x} e^{-t^{2}} \ dt[/tex]

Daniel.
 
  • #20
Well, then that makes perfect sense. Is that something that is standardly used in Calculus? The constant seems to be random.
 
  • #21
It is a very famous function.It is connected to the Gauss' normal distribution (error function).

And that is a normalization constant ...

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow +\infty} \mbox{erf} \ (x) =1[/tex]

Daniel.
 
  • #22
The normalization constant does vary by source. It's basically used to decide what [itex]\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} \mathop{erf} x[/itex] should be. Dividing by √π makes it an integer. This particular normalization makes it 1, I think. Incidentally, the error function is closely connected with the normal probability distribution.[/size]
 
  • #23
dextercioby said:
Yes.Always.Make that depends from case to case.Usually the antiderivatives of exponentials of "weird" arguments are not expressible in terms of "elementary functions".Simples example

[tex]\int e^{-x^{2}} \ dx[/tex]

Daniel.

how do you do this problem without a calculator?
[tex]u= -x^{2}[/tex]
[tex]du=-2x dx[/tex]

what next?
 
  • #24
That was the whole point. You can't express that with elementary functions. You won't be able to do that by hand... unless you know what Hurkyl and Dextercioby were just talking about.
 
  • #25
U can't.I told u,there's a special function associated with the value of that integral...

Daniel.
 
  • #26
You don't. [tex]e^{-x^2}[/tex] is one of the many integrable functions (in fact most of them) whose anti-derivatives, as dextercioby said, cannot be written in terms of "elementary functions".

You can, of course, write that [tex]\int e^{-x^2}dx= \frac{\sqrt{\pi}}{2}Erf(x)- just rewriting what dextercioby also said, because that is the way "Erf(x)", not an elementary function, is defined![/tex]
 
  • #27
oh, what level calculus in college do I learn this? Or is this for grad school?
 
  • #28
I dunno.I never had a course on this type of maths (special functions) and i had to learn them by myself...


Daniel.
 
  • #29
Which I think is the best way to learn anything I think. When no one is there to really help it kind of forces you to think on a different level, for me at least.
 
  • #30
basically, would my high school math teach know how to solve it if I asked him that question?
 

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