What identity should I substitute for the integral of sin^4(x)*cos^4(x)?

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The discussion revolves around the integral of sin4(x)cos4(x), focusing on the appropriate identities or substitutions to simplify the integral. Participants explore various methods and approaches related to trigonometric integrals, particularly those involving even powers of sine and cosine functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the integral of sin4(x)cos4(x) and seeks guidance on suitable identities for substitution.
  • Another participant suggests that the integrand can be viewed as (sin x cos x)4 and implies that there may be relevant sections in calculus textbooks that address such integrals.
  • A different participant mentions that their coursework has focused on integrals with one trigonometric function raised to an odd power and the other to an even power, indicating confusion about handling two even powers.
  • One participant encourages the original poster to revisit their textbook, suggesting that it should contain information on integrals involving both even powers.
  • A participant provides specific trigonometric identities, including sin 2x and expressions for cos2(x) and sin2(x), as potential tools for solving the integral.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific method for solving the integral, and multiple viewpoints regarding the approach to take remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the applicability of certain identities and the effectiveness of their suggested methods, particularly in the context of integrating even powers of trigonometric functions.

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can't figure this problem out for the life of me.
the intergral of:

sin^4(x)*cos^4(x)

any help as to what idenity i should sub in?
 
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If you still have your calculus textbook, there should be an entire section devoted specifically to integrals of this type. It's a good section to have handy as a reference, so I strongly suggest looking it up.


As for this particular example, have you noticed that the integrand is the same as (sin x cos x)^4 dx? (I'm assuming you meant to have a dx in there, though you didn't state it)
 
yes i have my book, but it doesn't help me figure out this problem which is what i need to do. what we've been doing is intergrals with one trig function to an odd power, and the other to an even. so the method has been substitue something for a trig power squared. i am lost as to what to do with two evens. i have tried using the same type of subsitutions but it has given me nothing. and i don't see where your suggestion leads me.
 
The section really should have something on the case when they're both even powers as well... you should double check. I remember usually having to look through the section a couple times to find it in the text they used at the university to which I went.


As for my hint... if you stare at it, there should be something that leaps out and screams "do this" -- it's something that really should have come up before.

If not, once you figure it out or are told what it is, remember for the future. :smile:
 
[tex]\sin 2x =2\sin x \cos x[/tex] (1)

[tex]\cos^{2}x=\frac{1+\cos 2x}{2}[/tex] (2)

[tex]\sin^{2}x=\frac{1-\cos 2x}{2}[/tex] (3)

is all u need to solve this

[tex]\int \sin^{4}x\cos^{4}x \ dx[/tex]

Daniel.
 

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