Solve u = 2x - 3y & v = -x + y in terms of u & v, then find Jacobian.

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The problem involves solving a system of equations given by u = 2x - 3y and v = -x + y for x and y in terms of u and v, and subsequently finding the Jacobian of the transformation. Additionally, there is a request to determine the image of a specified parallelogram in the xy-plane under this transformation.

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  • Participants discuss attempts to solve for x and y in terms of u and v, with some expressing uncertainty about their results. There are questions regarding the calculation of the Jacobian and the interpretation of the boundaries of the parallelogram in the transformed coordinates.

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Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the solutions for x and y, while others have raised concerns about the Jacobian calculation. There is ongoing exploration of how to express the boundaries of the parallelogram in the new coordinate system, with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the transformation of boundaries and the nature of the problem, including whether integration is required and what form it should take.

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Solve u = 2x - 3y & v = -x + y in terms of x & y, then find Jacobian.

Here is the problem:

Solve the system [tex]u = 2x\;-\;3y,\;\;v = -x\;+\;y[/tex] for x and y in terms of u and v. Then find the Jacobian [tex]\frac{\partial\left(x,\;y\right)}{\partial\left(u,\;v\right)}[/tex].

Find the image under the trasformation [tex]u = 2x\;-\;3y,\;\;v = -x\;+\;y[/tex] of the parallelogram [tex]R[/tex] in the xy-plane with boundries [tex]x = -3,\;\;x = 0,\;\;y = x\;and\;y = x\;+\;1[/tex]

Here is what I have:

[tex]y = -u\;-\;2v\;and\;x = -u\;-\;3v[/tex] I am not sure of these answers.

Assuming those are correct, I get the Jacobian to be [tex]-2[/tex]. This is where I am stuck, how do I do the second part? I can get the [tex]v-values[/tex] to be [tex]0\;and\;1[/tex] here,

[tex]y = x\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;y = x\;+\;1[/tex]
[tex]-2v\;-\;u = -3v\;-\;u\;\;\;\;\;-2v\;-\;u = -3v\;-\;u\;+\;1[/tex]
[tex]v = 0\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;\;v = 1[/tex]

But when I try and do the last part for the u values, I get [tex]u = u\;+\;3[/tex], which is impossible becaus then [tex]0 = 3[/tex].

Please help!
 
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Yes, you solved correctly for x and y, but the Jacobian is NOT -2. How did you get that?

"Find the image under the trasformation of the parallelogram in the xy-plane with boundries [tex]x = -3,\;\;x = 0,\;\;y = x\;and\;y = x\;+\;1[/tex]."

The boundaries do NOT neccessarily convert to "u= constant" or "v= constant".

The line x= -3, y anything, converts to u= 2(-3)-3y, v= -(-3)+ y= 3+ y so y= v- 3.
Then u= -6- 3(v- 3)= -6- 3v+ 9= -3v+ 3. One boundary is u= -3v+ 3.

The line x= 0 converts to u= 2(0)- 3y, v= -(0)+ y so y= v. Then u= -3(v).
Another boundary is u= -3v. (Which is, of course, parallel to the previous line.)

The line y= x converts to u= 2x- 3(x)= -x, v= -x+ (x)= 0. One boundary is v= 0.
(Since x can be anything, u can be anything.)

The line y= x+1 converts to u= 2x-3(x+1)= 2x-3x- 3= -x- 3, v= -x+ (x+1)= 1.
The last boundary is v= 1 (since x can be anything, u can be anything). That line is, of course, parallel to v= 0.
 
How I got the Jacobian

I used

[tex]\frac{\partial x}{\partial u}\;\frac{\partial y}{\partial v}\;-\;\frac{\partial y}{\partial u}\;\frac{\partial x}{\partial v}[/tex]

with the earlier equations solved for [tex]x[/tex] and [tex]y[/tex] and got

[tex](-1)(-1) - (-1)(-3) = 1 - 3 = -2[/tex]

What do I do now? put the limits into an integral with what as the integrand? Rectangular, cylindrical of spherical?
 
[tex]y = -u\;-\;2v\;and\;x = -u\;-\;3v[/tex]
so [tex]\frac{\partial y}{\partial x}= -2[/tex], not -1!

What do I do now? put the limits into an integral with what as the integrand?

I don't know! What does the problem ask? Your original post just said "solve for x, y, find the Jacobian, find what a parallelogram would be in the "u,v" coordinate system". You didn't say anything about an integral!

Rectangular, cylindrical of spherical?

I presume you are to do whatever integral you are given in uv- coordinates- that's not any of those!
 
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