Can Spin Foam Model of LQG Survive High-Energy Particles?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the resilience of the spin foam model of Loop Quantum Gravity (LQG) when subjected to high-energy particles, specifically those with energies around 10-20 MeV. Participants explore the implications of such interactions on the nature of spacetime and its properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the spin foam model can withstand a high-energy particle passing through it, suggesting that if the model is accurate, particles would be represented as waves propagating through the foam.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the indestructibility of spacetime, noting that everything in nature is degradable and questioning whether spacetime can be harmed.
  • A different perspective is offered, proposing that spacetime is malleable yet resilient, able to accommodate interactions as long as they do not violate causality or the laws of thermodynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the nature of spacetime and its interaction with high-energy particles, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the implications of high-energy particles on the spin foam model, leaving open questions about the assumptions regarding spacetime's resilience and the conditions under which it may be affected.

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It may be a simplistic question, but i wondered if the spin foam model
of LQG could survive a particle of 10-20 Mev ripping through its matrics.
 
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wolram said:
It may be a simplistic question, but i wondered if the spin foam model
of LQG could survive a particle of 10-20 Mev ripping through its matrics.

Surely if the spin-foam model is accurate (and remember, it is mostly used at present as a form of path integral), then the zipping macroscopically envisioned particle would be when viewed microscopically some kind of wave propagating zig-zag fashion through the foam. Particles after all would be in the foam not somehow or other prior to it.
 
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Thanks for reply SelfAdjoint.

It may sound strange that space time could be harmed in any way,
but as far as i know everything in nature is degradable, in one way
or another, so is ST indestructible?
 
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I prefer a different analogy. Spacetime is malleable, but resilient. It accommodates any transaction that does not violate causality [e.g., the laws of thermodynamics].
 

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